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Well our current team vs what we could have available is ridiculous

Vidal vs Fletcher
Di Maria vs Valencia
Herrera vs Cleverley
Shaw vs Young
Rojos vs Smalling
 
fez said:
Well our current team vs what we could have available is ridiculous

Vidal vs Fletcher
Di Maria vs Valencia
Herrera vs Cleverley
Shaw vs Young
Rojos vs Smalling
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Even ignoring Vidal and Di Maria our team today wasn't close to as strong as it could have been. Evans is a quality defender when he's not injured (and he has had long runs without injuries so hopefully he'll be ok soon).
 
Duff-Man said:
A very different approach to Liverpool's transfer business.

Even discounting the sale of Suarez, Liverpool have spent less than United, and have strengthened their entire lineup (the above isn't too far off an entire new side). They now have decent quality in depth right the way through the field.

United have clearly taken the opposing view - buy a few big-money "superstars". I could understand this if United already had a top-class side and just needed a few key additions (like Chelsea did this time around), but they don't. I can't help think that taking a Liverpool-type approach would have been a better bet. With the quality they have in attack, strengthening the quality and depth of midfield and defence with ~£10-£20m players would have put them in a good position for a CL place, and given a platform to further build in coming windows.

...just my 2p.
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Liverpool need strength in depth to cope with the additional European games.

Man U first and foremost need to add quality to their starting 11, particularly in defence and midfield. Di Maria is obviously yet another attacking player, but Man U's wingers have been **** for ages and Young and Valencia in particular looked absolutely atrocious today.

You would assume that if they do complete the signing of someone like Di Maria, then it would act as a 'sign of intent' which presumably they hope will encourage other players to consider signing too.
 
The jury is still massively out on Liverpool. They lost by far their best player and have added depth but not much quality to their squad. If Sturridge gets injured it will be interesting to see how they get on.
 
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fez said:
I don't think he is in the top 5 players in the world but that doesn't mean that he wasn't your best player by a long shot last season.
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Better, worse or on a par with Rooney and RvP?

Genuine question btw. I ask because if we were so reliant on him as some would suggest,he's got to have been pretty special to have got us where we were.
 
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Duff-Man said:
So that takes United's net spend this summer to about £137.5m, on four players (Shaw, Herrera, Rojo, Di Maria).

Using figures from transfermarkt: £82.3 + di Maria in, and £8.8m out.


A very different approach to Liverpool's transfer business. They've spent a net £55.9m (£131.6m in, including £16m for Balotelli, and £75.7 out), and brought in:


Moreno, Lovren, Manquillo
Lallana, Can, Markovic,
Origi, Lambert, Balotelli


Even discounting the sale of Suarez, Liverpool have spent less than United, and have strengthened their entire lineup (the above isn't too far off an entire new side). They now have decent quality in depth right the way through the field.

United have clearly taken the opposing view - buy a few big-money "superstars". I could understand this if United already had a top-class side and just needed a few key additions (like Chelsea did this time around), but they don't. I can't help think that taking a Liverpool-type approach would have been a better bet. With the quality they have in attack, strengthening the quality and depth of midfield and defence with ~£10-£20m players would have put them in a good position for a CL place, and given a platform to further build in coming windows.

...just my 2p.


Edit: That's also over £200m net spent since Ferguson left.
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"Liverpool-type approach"? Isn't that the same as a "Tottenham-like approach" from last season? Get a ton of money from selling your star player, then spend it all on mediocre squad players. Didn't seem to work out so well for Spurs...

United have enough mediocre players. They need quality players now.
 
div0 said:
Liverpool need strength in depth to cope with the additional European games.

Man U first and foremost need to add quality to their starting 11, particularly in defence and midfield. Di Maria is obviously yet another attacking player, but Man U's wingers have been **** for ages and Young and Valencia in particular looked absolutely atrocious today.
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I appreciate that Liverpool and United are in somewhat different situations. It just amazes me that over £200m has been spent since Fergie's departure, and massive gaps in quality still remain in the squad.

My view is that you buy decent-quality players to cover the the essential positions first, and *then* build upon that with world-class quality as and when they become available. I've no problem with United chasing world-class players for positions they need, but it shouldn't come at the cost of ignoring other players who would be perfectly good and ideally suited to the missing positions. Setting out with the view that you will *only* buy players who are of the absolute best quality is a luxury reserved for clubs who already have a well balanced squad with plenty of depth (e.g. City / Chelsea).

It's all well and good saying that a marquee signing can act as a 'statement of intent', but when that signing comes into a squad littered with holes, and the team is still not winning, it can discourage others from doing the same. Success breeds success.
 
BaZ87 said:
Better, worse or on a par with Rooney and RvP?

Genuine question btw. I ask because if we were so reliant on him as some would suggest,he's got to have been pretty special to have got us where we were.
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Better than either of them. Whats your point?
 
thor said:
"Liverpool-type approach"? Isn't that the same as a "Tottenham-like approach" from last season? Get a ton of money from selling your star player, then spend it all on mediocre squad players. Didn't seem to work out so well for Spurs...
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Different situation. Spurs replaced a vast swathe of their first 11 with foreign talent. Liverpool have bought (mostly) cover players. How many of their new signings have so far started a game?

thor said:
United have enough mediocre players. They need quality players now.
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There are plenty of players available who would be a big improvement on current options, without costing the world. "Quality", yes. "World-class only", no.
 
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