*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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Can't be any worse than Kone. :D


http://www.theguardian.com/football...rsenal-premier-league-match-report?CMP=twt_gu


Everton consider additions up front after Arsenal’s late fightback
• Move for 33-year-old Samuel Eto’o is under consideration

Of Welbeck and Eto’o, Martínez said: “There is a lot of money involved in those two. At the moment, if I am honest with you, I am looking at all the options.

“While the window is open we are looking at anyone who can help us and also looking at our injured players and seeing how they react. Oviedo and Koné will have a big say on how we end the window and I have an open mind about it. Our first-half performance shows what we have got in the squad.”

With only a week left until the 1 September deadline the clock ticks. “Yes, and that is what we are going to be doing, to make sure we make the right decisions,” said Martínez.
 
67 million wasted on fellaiini and mata combined imo. Plus Zaha. Could be costly.

what a load of Tosh,

Mata scored today and even last year played well, the other two have not been great, but normal if you look at any other club, and whats a few million to a club like UTD, hardly gonna be costly,

fellaiini will get sold for 10 - 12 mil and zaha for around 5 or 6 - yes not great business sense but hardly gonna be costly to a club of that size.
 
Ogden actually thinks it'll be £60m~, it sounds as if the price isn't finalised yet.

Despite efforts by Florentino Pérez, the Real president, to increase Di María’s valuation to £75 million — just £5 million short of the world record fee received by United from Real for Cristiano Ronaldo in June 2009 – United are confident that a deal in the region of £60 million can be struck for the former Benfica player.

Probably be the £63m~ that's being bandied about.

Also:

With Louis van Gaal, the United manager, determined to make further additions to his squad before the transfer deadline next Monday, the club are expected to pursue moves for the AC Milan midfielder Nigel de Jong and the Ajax defender Daley Blind once Di María has been secured.

Arturo Vidal, the Juventus midfielder, is also a target, but with the Italian champions aiming to resist offers for the Chile international an £8 million move for the former Manchester City midfielder De Jong is regarded by Van Gaal as a contingency plan with the manager acknowledging the need for midfield reinforcements.

Be a massive improvement on what we have and will allow the creative players more freedom.
 
Again, you're making it sound like improving the depth of the squad is a negative. I don't get it :confused:

And I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence. The single biggest reason why we didn't win the League last season was the size of our squad. We had ~14 players that we could rely on last season and a couple of injuries left us down to our bare bones. Over the xmas period when Gerrard and Sturridge were out, we were practically forced into playing near enough the same 11 every game, despite playing every few days. We played City and Chelsea away back to back and fielded the same 11 where as both of those were able to change half their side to deal with the congested calendar. You then look at the Chelsea game at the end of the season that effectively lost us the title, the injury to Sturridge and suspension for Henderson again left us down to our bare bones. We had nobody to replace Henderson and had nothing to come off the bench to change the game when we were chasing it.

Without Suarez we were already left with a very good front 3 in Sturridge, Sterling and Coutinho. Unlike last season though we've not just got 4 attacking players in the whole squad, we've now got 6 or 7; 3 tried and trusted from last season, 2 (Balotelli and Lallana) with PL experience and a huge prospect in Markovic and then Lambert if we're really short.

Are you seriously suggesting that rather than improve the squad as a whole, we should have spent the money from Suarez's sale on 1 player that would have no doubt been inferior to Suarez?

Nah man, I am saying get your feet firmly in the ground before running instead of walking. If you sell Suarez for £70m you spend the money on someone of the same quality with the same fee going out if needed. Or does Brendan believe his own hype? Remember Fergie and Ronaldo and how our last great team and European cup came with him? The great Fergie could not do it and many have failed to do so. You simply do not gamble you replace equal for equal.


You qualified for Europe and have a good fanbase. So leaving Suarez aside you should have a minimum of £50m. Now the last time i checked your defence was average at best and Sakho alone wont cut it. Now Balotelli and Sakho are not bad players but do they really fill that Suarez and CB gap that argueably needed to be world class to keep top four? Because i simply see no one of that level there anymore. Gerrard was also ran ragged last season and should have been getting a big replacement soon of equal quality. Now there is no way there is money left for people like Llana,Can,Lambert,Markovic there for me.
 
If you sell Suarez for £70m you spend the money on someone of the same quality with the same fee going out if needed. Or does Brendan believe his own hype? Remember Fergie and Ronaldo and how our last great team and European cup came with him? The great Fergie could not do it and many have failed to do so. You simply do not gamble you replace equal for equal..

So when liverpool sold torres for £50m buying Suarez was a bad idea because at that time he was not as good as Torres? How do sell and buy equal for equal when he has no equal in the position and role he plays.
 
Nah man, I am saying get your feet firmly in the ground before running instead of walking. If you sell Suarez for £70m you spend the money on someone of the same quality with the same fee going out if needed. Or does Brendan believe his own hype? Remember Fergie and Ronaldo and how our last great team and European cup came with him? The great Fergie could not do it and many have failed to do so. You simply do not gamble you replace equal for equal.


You qualified for Europe and have a good fanbase. So leaving Suarez aside you should have a minimum of £50m. Now the last time i checked your defence was average at best and Sakho alone wont cut it. Now Balotelli and Sakho are not bad players but do they really fill that Suarez and CB gap that argueably needed to be world class to keep top four? Because i simply see no one of that level there anymore. Gerrard was also ran ragged last season and should have been getting a big replacement soon of equal quality. Now there is no way there is money left for people like Llana,Can,Lambert,Markovic there for me.

The whole reason why we've spread our money and improved the squad as a whole is because you can't replace Suarez. He's a one of a kind. And look at the fee Real paid for James and what Utd are paying for Di Maria; similar fees to Suarez yet inferior players by some distance. Trying to replace Suarez like for like was a sure way of ending up weaker.

For Gerrard see Suarez. You can't replace him, not without spending mental money. You have to rely on bringing through quality young players. In Can we've brought in a quality youngster with the potential to replace Gerrard in the long term.

Markovic too is a massive prospect with people like of Tor-Kristian Karlsen believing he could become one of the best players in the league within a season. We now have 4 very good attacking mids/wingers that would either start or be ver valuable squad players at every side in the league.

As for our defence. We've just brought in Lovren, one of the best cb's in the league last season, a promising RB in Manquillo with a long term view of replacing Johnson, and an already very good but with the potential to be even better LB in Moreno.

With the exception of improving our reserve keeper, we've addressed every need we had from last season. We had an excellent attack and midfield last year but lacked depth, we've addressed that. We needed a leader at the back and a first team LB and we've addressed both those weaknesses too.

Is our first 11 weaker from last season? Only time will tell but on paper you could say it is slightly weaker but our squad as a whole is undoubtedly stronger.
 
I don't know whether I am just making this up but Van Gaal seems to have had air of ambivalence about him with regard to the last two United results, almost like he thinks they don't matter too much and that he is waiting for some big new signings. He was joking and smiling at one point on the bench in todays game even though we were just awful and drawing 1-1 at the time.

and in his press conference:

""When a transfer is finished, then we say anything.

"But now you have to wait and see. If the moment is there Manchester United shall announce it.

"But it is not only Di Maria. Maybe Vidal or Messi. We are a big club."


I get the feeling that he knows he is going to have some real quality players coming in that will change things around soon.
 
I don't know whether I am just making this up but Van Gaal seems to have had air of ambivalence about him with regard to the last two United results, almost like he thinks they don't matter too much and that he is waiting for some big new signings. He was joking and smiling at one point on the bench in todays game even though we were just awful and drawing 1-1 at the time.

and in his press conference:

""When a transfer is finished, then we say anything.

"But now you have to wait and see. If the moment is there Manchester United shall announce it.

"But it is not only Di Maria. Maybe Vidal or Messi. We are a big club."


I get the feeling that he knows he is going to have some real quality players coming in that will change things around soon.

Maybe, but he knows that especially with our current injuries the early results don't matter too much. He thinks it'll be 3 months before everything settles down.

Either way if we get De Jong alongside Herrera (Vidal is unlikely but you never know), with Carrick and Blind as backup, we'll have a good enough midfield to achieve what our immediate aims are.
 
The problem at United is there is hardly any value in our squad. When we decide a player isn't right for us we let them rot for a season or two (Nani, Berbatov, Kagawa etc) before letting them go at far below what we should be getting for them.

Nani's contract ran out last summer, and wssnt it end of the '11 season he got the player of the season? You suggesting he should have been ejected after one bad season? Or let go for free?

Utd should still get majority of what we paid for for Kagawa ( around 14m).
 
Di Maria, Blind and De Jong would still leave you too light at CB and R(W)B, no? It's not as though Valencia and Young have smashed it in the WB positions.

LWB would be very well covered, RWB less so but I like Rafael and think he's a good player (a bit dodgy at times, but overall). Valencia isn't great but he'd do the job against most teams defensively. I wouldn't fancy him against a great winger though.

We could do with a dominant central defender who has experience like Benatia, but we do have enough cover there. With proper midfielders infront of them they should look a lot better.

I'm not sure we'll definitely stick with the wing back system, depending on who we sign. We could have Blind and De Jong in DM and play 4-2-3-1 for example.

Rafael and Valencia are your 2 rwb options with Jones or Smalling options at RB if they go with a flat back 4.

Yeah, it's just really central midfield which presents a massive problem area, amplified even more now by injuries.
 
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