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The Running Man said:
Mata can't play every game. If we sell kagawa we have no amc.

Don't know if you've noticed but playing 3 players up front with so little pace between them with no pace on the wings hasn't been working too well.
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Definitely, i agree, but LVG is trying to play a possession game, it's less important to have pace then. Janu should be given a chance up front, he could be lethal with his pace and trickery. Also, the problem with playing Rooney on his own is he needs someone one with him. He can't hold the line on his own really, unless you play a false 9 with Janu and Di Maria on the wings, but then that leaves Mata out in the cold..

Mata and Rooney are your constants basically, they need to be central and in and around the box, It's where you put everyone else then. Difficult situation.
 
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manic111 said:
You'll get that in a 5-3-2 from Rafael and Shaw bombing on. Yes, it leaves you exposed at the back, but that's a problem with your poor defence/DMs, and isn't relevant to the Di Maria situation. You'd be no less bare at the back playing 4-3-3, as your defensive players are still pants.
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Yea but my way you have 3 center midfielders capable of winning the ball, passing and moving under instructions to, when the opposition has the ball in front of them, win it back. When our team has the ball behind them, get it off them. When they have the ball, move it forward and pick out winger left or right. One then supports. Other two sit protecting our terrible defence.
 
The Running Man said:
Yea but my way you have 3 center midfielders capable of winning the ball, passing and moving under instructions to, when the opposition has the ball in front of them, win it back. When our team has the ball behind them, get it off them. When they have the ball, move it forward and pick out winger left or right. One then supports. Other two sit protecting our terrible defence.
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I'm sorry, which 3 central midfielders are these? Have Utd been making some sneaky signings today? :confused:
 
The Running Man said:
Because real have ronaldo and bale playing wide on the wing? I forgot we have wingers capable of scoring 22 goals (bale) and 51 (ronaldo). He's more a poor man's ronaldo thsn he is a ball winning central midfielder.

reals front 3 is actually effective, has pace and power in abundance. Mata, rvp, rooney just doesn't work.

Lvg is comparing di maria to robben, not arturo vidal and where does robben play? iI'm pretty sure lvg wants to deploy
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It can or should work i think the problem is Mata has stale balls, No not that :D but in that he has no one making fast runs where his passing and decision making can shine. None of them get in behind defences and all of them get balls played in to thier feet where they nearly always pass back or turn and snap at a predictive shot. And this is why Di Maria will shine either as a striker like Robben or on the left of the midfield 3 because Mata can now pick him out and United can attack faster and break from midfield.


Not only that you can see by the fact him and Rojo are left footed and can play out on the left touchline that we are esentially playing wide men on that side if you Ignore shaw. The side players in the defensive 3 and midfield 3 are it seems meant to be able to play wide when the fullback goes wandering and Phil Jones experience at right back just further points to 5-3-2 staying and 4-3-3 being the offensive option.
 
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I'm saying to maximise the usefulness of our new record signing we need to not have him there so require 2 signings.

Mata doesn't fit in. We aren't a team good enough to play narrow.
 
No team plays narrow though really, you always create width when you have 5 at the back with wingbacks. It's just you aren't doing a good enough job of holding onto the ball to allow the width to come into play at the moment. I do agree though that having Di Maria out left or right will be the future position for him but at the moment i don't you can do it.

If United went out and bought Vidal and Carvalho and Hummels, things would be different. You could then play a nice original 4-2-3-1

-----Vidal----Carvalho
Janu-----Mata------Di Maria
---------Rooney
 
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Well that and we don't exactly have cafu out there either.

Without DM up front/wide we still have no pace up there. If we play wing backs can dm play as one of a cm pairing? Up front or in place of mata?
 
Well ADM would still be taking people on out left as an advanced LCM, when in possesion and in the final 3rd, you'd have Shaw and ADM out left...

I agree you have no pace in your strikers though..it needs sorting in the future.
 
The Running Man said:
I'm saying to maximise the usefulness of our new record signing we need to not have him there so require 2 signings.

Mata doesn't fit in. We aren't a team good enough to play narrow.
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No think about it he actually does not need anyone he is a key cog of what seems a new type of 5-3-2. The midfield only has one defensive player and the other player is normally a number 10 which is Mata. The other person is merely meant to be a pivot helping out both but if your formation is based highly on posession and deprived of pace and the ability to drop a big striker you can easily mould anyone you want in there.


If there was a skillful pacey high workrate player who wanted to come we would obviously buy him but there is no one we failed with Fabregas and Kroos so this is what we get. And the fact he is left footed and played there for Madrid must have convinced Van Gaal that this is the best person available for the limited spaces left in our midfield. We already have Mata, We have two Strikers and we have a need for a DM to hold. Who else or where else in the team can he inject pace? This is really his only option unless he goes to 4-3-3.


But then you are going to play your captain out of position too. So you either play him out of position or you play Di Maria out of his. Except Rooney has been weak of late when put wide (England) while Di Maria excelled. So it makes more sense to me now the more i type about why LVG has made a very shrewed move that can easily go over a lot of peoples head because it is quite complex.
 
I think it would look someone life this if the ball was in the final 3rd, left hand side of the pitch. I put Vidal and Cav in there just as makeshifts..

 
Swap mata for Gaitan move him back a bit. Swap jones for a credible right back. Move shaw backwards and yes.

okay forgot, switch mata for herrera and have him deeper. Gaitan is nice but not essential.
 
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The Running Man said:
Swap mata for Gaitan move him back a bit. Swap jones for a credible right back. Move shaw backwards and yes.

okay forgot, switch mata for herrera and have him deeper. Gaitan is nice but not essential.
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It's just a general rough idea of how i'll think LVG will push ADM up further when the ball is in the left final 3rd.. It'll never obviously play out like that as football is a high tempo game. But it gives you a small indication of how they'll try and line themselves up
 
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Problem is you can't rely on Evans and need a right back still plus we'd still need to buy Carvalho essentially drop all English and valencia (except shaw and roo) and go fir 9 foreign players.
 
The Running Man said:
Problem is you can't rely on Evans and need a right back still plus we'd still need to buy Carvalho essentially drop all English and valencia (except shaw and roo) and go fir 9 foreign players.
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Well jones is more of defender than anything so it compliments Evans and Rojo with Shaw bombing on. Forms a 3 at the back pretty quickly if need be.
 
The Running Man said:
Swap mata for Gaitan move him back a bit. Swap jones for a credible right back. Move shaw backwards and yes.

okay forgot, switch mata for herrera and have him deeper. Gaitan is nice but not essential.
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What? You suggest we swap Mata for Gaitan as in with his current club or buy Gaitan and keep them both.
 
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