Turkey Grand Prix 2010, Istanbul Park - Race 7/19

Currently its the McLaren that has the straight line speed according to the commentary on Sunday (which did nothing to disprove that)

With Canada with the massive straight no reason why McLaren cant lock out the front row or at least equal their Turkey grid positions (of course its heavily dependant on who gets more effective use of their tyres too)

Laughs@ Jenson love -in, its more like Lewis love-in trying to be balanced by commenting on Jenson rather than the other way round. Certainly on Sunday there was no difference at all with their performances in the race, yet a lot on here seem to want to give Lewis 100% of the credit. If anything with his move on Schumacher, Button had a fractionally better race

Its still 2 - 1 wins in JB's favour, and if Lewis ever makes a mistake JB will be on his tail to make the most of it


well maybe if people present information as opinion, rather than trying to state facts (which are often misguided at best) then that would help also

Demon said:
I don't think he's bashing Button at all, he's just saying having a MacLaren behind him is better then a fellow Redbull, but since Jenson is the lead MacLaren in the WDC at the moment, he used his name? He categorically said the Maclaren was slow, not Jenson..
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Actually if any car is right behind you - its obviously equally as fast, and therefore I would suggest you would prefer your team mate as you then know how best the car handles and its weaknesses , there would be a lot less information for x driver on another team's car

Its probably marginal either way - but its still just as valid wouldnt you say? I would also suggest that JB's name was put there on purpose to imply exactly what you dont think so, Im only saying that from previous posts...maybe that is incorrect but seems that way
 
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EddScott said:
http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite...ack-On-The-Turkish-Grand-Prix-021242855170930

When you attempt to wheel out the fall guy don't allow everyone to provide an opinion.

Read the comments. Can't imagine many teams getting a verbal pasting on their own website!
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Wow, they get pounded. I've never known an accident be called like this by the public. I literally know no one who feels it wasn't Vettels error, from all the forums I use and email F1 groups I use pretty much everyone can see what happened.

This is a real PR bashing for Red Bull and Horner. It won't have done Vettel any favours either.
 
sunama said:
If you read carefully, you will notice that I didn't say, "slow Button". Those were your own words.

Also, try not to take things so personally. Take a chill pill.
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Why even use the word slow when it was clear he wasn't?
It was a combination of that and the fact you are often slating Button that made me jump to that conclusion, if you genuinely weren't then I apologise.

Whilst I'll admit I'm a fan of Button I won't dismiss him as being perfect, but when a driver is discounted as being worse than someone else with absolutely no basis on that it bugs me.
 
PinkFloyd said:
Why even use the word slow when it was clear he wasn't?
It was a combination of that and the fact you are often slating Button that made me jump to that conclusion, if you genuinely weren't then I apologise.
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LOL. So now you are blaming me, for you not reading my post correctly.

Dude...seriously, you have problems.
 
sunama said:
What do the German fans think? Are they still backing their man?
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They're used to it.

Why are you surprised, Remember MSC, everyone thought those days where gone. Obviously not, but with every angel and several cameras on each cars and all the telemetry. It's not like teh mid 90's anymore. Internet age means info spreads fast adn wide.
 
Spie said:
Only done to save face.

Maybe some of you would like to ask Vettel a question?
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a lot of unfair comments there. I'd just say make sure Seb, Mark and Redbull make sure they can move on and put an end to it now. If they don't it wil ruin their chances for this year. They've made enough of a hash of dominating the season without adding to the affair by imploding.
 
sunama said:
This is just a forum. Thats all it is. The posts are merely opinions. Not fact. Some of you need to understand this. If you don't agree with the opinion, state the reason and prepare a counter argument. To start calling other people silly names, simply because your opinions are diffferent is tantamount to throwing your toys out of a pram.
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But thats why we love forums, its fun watching people make fools of themselves. Some people just cant let it slide and have to go into forum rage though, which is equally as funny :p

I'm not quite sure how anyone can think the RBR will be a cert for 1-2 in Canada, its all about the straight line speed, and I thought everyone knew that the Mclaren was king in that respect. Valencia will be different again, but i strongly expect Mclaren to be top of the pile in 2 weeks. The only thing RBR can do to close that speed gap is develop their blown wing very very fast, but since Mclaren have been working with it for 18 months and RBR have been playing with it for 2 months, i doubt we'll see any great advances. They'll use it for sure, but it won't be enough in my opinion.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Why are you surprised, Remember MSC, everyone thought those days where gone.
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When MSc did his "special moves", he generally did so to gain a decisive advantage in the championship.

EG. Attempt to take out Hill in 1994 (which succeeded and yielded him the WDC).
Attempt to take out JV in 1997 (which failed. Had he succeeded though, I believe he would've won the title that year).
In 2006, he parked his Ferrari, while he was occupying the provisional pole, in final qualifying, to block anyone else from completing their lap. Had he got pole and get 10 points, probably the title would've been A LOT closer.

Now if we take Vettel's move - he trying to overtake his team-mate for only 7 points. There are still plenty of races to go and if he had taken Webber out (along with himself), their respective positions wouldn't be decisive in the WDC title race.

Personally, I don't believe what Vettel did can be mentioned in the same breath as an MS "special move".

Don't forget that Webber was also driving recklessly earlier this year. Didnt he take out Hamilton earlier this year, by driving recklessly?

I just don't see the fuss, but obviously I am in the minority.
 
webber was rightfully criticised in aus for just not being that good (by me as well if you check that thread) a fair bit different from the criticism now of vettel who being a douchebag especially after the event.
 
sunama said:
Personally, I don't believe what Vettel did can be mentioned in the same breath as an MS "special move"..
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Only because it isn't a title decider yet.

Equally as bad for me, both used the car as a weapon but the difference being Vettel didn't actually have to do it. If he hadn't have done it he would have won the race. MS wouldn't have done it because he would know he had webber beat for speed into the corner. MS did it out of shear desperation (with the JV incident he actually got mugged tbh, as MS could have taken the place right back, without MS nerfing him I'd be confident MS could have passed back under him)

sunama said:
Another thing that I didnt quite understand:

After Vettel got out of his car he made a gesture with his hand. What exactly did he mean by this?
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He was making suggestions that Webber had lost his mind.
 
sunama said:
When MSc did his "special moves", he generally did so to gain a decisive advantage in the championship.
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I'm talking about how vettle and even more how the team reacted. Rather than teh actual move itself. Whivh is no where near as cunning as MSC. Nothing more than getting angry and being stupid.
 
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