Type R and VTEC owners

richyfingers · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:37

Front lip fitted

Before

Finishes off the front end nicely. Next on the to do list, new stereo, getting the steering wheel re-trimmed by one of the guys on s2kiuk, red stiching and half perforated leather and some new 4 piece mats as mine are looking a bit tatty and worn.

Also want the headlight washers removed and smoothed over.

Simon · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:45

Robin's steering wheels are awesome

richyfingers · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:46

Did you get yours done Simon?

Clarkey · 21 Feb 2013 at 14:05

Jonnycoupe said:
How does one 'sort out the mechanical grip'?

By calling on a know it all like Jonnycoupe I suppose, you know, somebody with unparalleled arrogance.

NathWraith · 21 Feb 2013 at 15:09

I'm looking forward to finally tracking my CRZ the added mugen kit should make a good difference on track compared to the non mugen kitted CRZs.

-Ad- · 21 Feb 2013 at 15:16

Simon said:
Robin's steering wheels are awesome

I can also recommend Jack @ Royal Steering Wheels.

He did a great job on my DC2 MOMO wheel last year:

Before:

After:

bledd · 21 Feb 2013 at 16:26

Lovely looking S2000 there, are the headlight washers optional? Or were they just added/removed in later models? They kinda spoil the look imo, makes the front end look a little less menacing.

Jonnycoupe · 21 Feb 2013 at 16:29

Clarkey said:
By calling on a know it all like Jonnycoupe I suppose, you know, somebody with unparalleled arrogance.

Dude, atleast its justified.

I'm not schizophrenic so rarely talk to myself.

You sorted that roll centre out on yours? It would 'sort it reet gud'.

delta0 · 21 Feb 2013 at 16:48

bledd. said:
Lovely looking S2000 there, are the headlight washers optional? Or were they just added/removed in later models? They kinda spoil the look imo, makes the front end look a little less menacing.

Headlight washers are a legal requirement for HID type lights.

richyfingers · 21 Feb 2013 at 17:31

If they are present they have to work in order to pass an MOT however once removed it will still pass it's MOT.

delta0 · 21 Feb 2013 at 17:45

richyfingers said:
If they are present they have to work in order to pass an MOT however once removed it will still pass it's MOT.

That used to be the case. As of May last year they now check for the presence of the washer system.

From the MOT inspection manual:
"Vehicles with HID headlamps are required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self-levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems"

Saw a thread on another forum where someone had routed some tubes to the front of the car and attached it to an supersoaker just to get it though the MOT!

I have no idea if the rules are still like this right now.

Will · 21 Feb 2013 at 18:13

delta0 said:
That used to be the case. As of May last year they now check for the presence of the washer system.

From the MOT inspection manual:
"Vehicles with HID headlamps are required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self-levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems"

Saw a thread on another forum where someone had routed some tubes to the front of the car and attached it to an supersoaker just to get it though the MOT!

I have no idea if the rules are still like this right now.

I can't see that statement from the MOT testing manual available online here, this being the Jan 2012 document so I guess it may have been revised:

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s01000701.htm

(Section 1.7 is the one that deals with headlamps)

It still seems to show that vehicles fitted with HIDS may be fitted with headlight washers and self levelling systems - and that where fitted, they must work. Thus - self levellers and washers are not a necessity, but remain optional.

nicRob · 21 Feb 2013 at 18:17

My car, with aftermarket HIDs (in projectors) passed an MOT a few months ago. As Will says, the systems must work IF fitted.

Vita · 21 Feb 2013 at 19:45

-Ad- said:
Beware that it's always pretty mental down there and you might be waiting for a bit.

There's usually another/other owners hanging around to chat to

I can imagine. I'd book in advance. I would tackle some of the issues myself, but my knowledge is limited.

richyfingers · 21 Feb 2013 at 20:05

delta0 said:
That used to be the case. As of May last year they now check for the presence of the washer system.

From the MOT inspection manual:
"Vehicles with HID headlamps are required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self-levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems"

Saw a thread on another forum where someone had routed some tubes to the front of the car and attached it to an supersoaker just to get it though the MOT!

I have no idea if the rules are still like this right now.

That information is wrong, they only MOT failure that would occur was if they were present and non functioning. If they are not present then they are not an MOT test item so removing them will be no issue.

Simon · 21 Feb 2013 at 20:37

Clarkey said:
By calling on a know it all like Jonnycoupe I suppose, you know, somebody with unparalleled arrogance.

Or making assumptions about something you have no experience of?

Clarkey · 21 Feb 2013 at 21:03

Jonnycoupe said:
Dude, atleast its justified. I'm not schizophrenic so rarely talk to myself.

You sorted that roll centre out on yours? It would 'sort it reet gud'.

Yeah, perhaps your JLR connections could design new uprights or something. I don't have the ability, resources or inclination to though. It works ok for me and countless others though so leaving it alone will do.

Simon said:
Or making assumptions about something you have no experience of?

You're right, I have no experience of the FN2. Pretty safe bet that tyres and geo are going to have a much more profound effect than some silly canards. It's a hotted up hatchback not an F1 machine.

Jonnycoupe · 21 Feb 2013 at 21:11

Don't need to go nuts with upright adjustment, just something like this off the shelf? Perhaps design something? There's no doubt about it I could. Couldn't afford machining though!

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php?II=941

I didn't read that someone had a problem with their car that needed 'sorting' just asking what canards were for, I reply, you pop up and ho hum here we are.

F1 cars don't have canards, BTW...

FWIW roll centre adjustment on a McP front is common on EP3, DC5 and Fn2 when lowered to recover the OEM rising spring rate 'geo' with bump to regain roll control with the same stiffness spring.

That's a geo isn't it?

Clarkey · 21 Feb 2013 at 21:25

Never seen those GC bits before. Seems like a relatively extravagant purchase to solve a problem which is barely a problem. I will put them on the list of things to consider if I still own the car in a years time though.

dessimpson · 21 Feb 2013 at 21:39

richyfingers said:
That information is wrong, they only MOT failure that would occur was if they were present and non functioning. If they are not present then they are not an MOT test item so removing them will be no issue.

It's wrong on the mainland, but in Northern Ireland you have to have the washer system. Lots of guys with evo 8's & 9's are having to retro fit pipes to the intercooler spray lines to pass the NI MOT.