Type R and VTEC owners

Noxia · 2 Oct 2014 at 11:56

I'm looking forward to it as well. I want a fast Honda but cannot afford an NSX and don't really want to SC or Turbocharge the existing models available.
I shan't be getting from new as unfortunately (?) houses are more important but look forward to picking one up 3 years down the line.

lemonade · 2 Oct 2014 at 13:23

NathWraith said:
The evo isn't a honda though.

The point being made by Honda is that this type r will be the best of the best of type Rs.

I'm looking forward to it.

That's just marketing garbage by Honda, nothing they make will come close to the NSX, not even the new one.

Is it not pretty much impossible to get a high-revving screaming N/A engine through emissions regs now though?

There are still high revving N/A engines out there, Lexus are releasing one with the RC-F or whatever its called. Just means it will probably be a high tax band, but I'm sure if Honda wanted they could have developed something that would meet the targets, but the cost of R&D is probably too much, much easier to bolt on a turbo.

Is anyone able to tell me if my Honda has a cambelt or chain? I have a Honda Civic 2.0 petrol V-TECH 54 plate Type S. Thanks in advance.

It's chain driven, its from the K20 family.

loltim · 2 Oct 2014 at 17:31

Simon said:
That's the fill date, read the label

Doesn't say (hence me asking) but thanks!

Jonnycoupe · 2 Oct 2014 at 17:33

Its a K20a3 i-VTEC with 157. i-VTEC is a clue to the 2.0 K family as it adds VTC unlike the B20 CRV derived lump.

loltim · 2 Oct 2014 at 17:37

yeah i edited. not quickly enough though

I think I'm thinking of the Ep2 which is definitely a belt.

NathWraith · 2 Oct 2014 at 18:30

Intrigued to now how many people in this thread have driven an NSX.

ChrisD. · 2 Oct 2014 at 18:35

I haven't, but, I've spent a significant amount of time in the non Type R and I am good friends with the (now ex) owner. I've also been out in the facelift Type R a few times. There's a lot you can tell about a car from the passenger seat IMO but of course nothing comes close to the real thing.

Muffin` · 2 Oct 2014 at 20:16

MilanoChris said:
I haven't, but, I've spent a significant amount of time in the non Type R and I am good friends with the (now ex) owner. I've also been out in the facelift Type R a few times. There's a lot you can tell about a car from the passenger seat IMO but of course nothing comes close to the real thing.

I agree, knowing how to handle car goes a long way to feeling what the cars doing even from the passenger seat.

Jonnycoupe · 2 Oct 2014 at 21:04

NathWraith said:
Intrigued to now how many people in this thread have driven an NSX.

Well if they had they haven't driven a new CIVIC type R yet to form an opinion any more than you absorbing the Honda marketing BS.

The NSX has 300bhp, little over 1200kg and a low Cd with RWD. I'm frankly amazed Honda are declaring as fastest Type R, unless it's something irrelevant like top speed.

Look at the back axle of an NSX for automotive porn, the back of the Civic is like a Rover 25 for gods sake.

Drizmod · 2 Oct 2014 at 21:10

lemonade said:
It's chain driven, its from the K20 family.

Thanks! im pretty sure its a K20a3. Does this mean I dont need to get the chain changed? Car has done 115k miles so far and not a single issue since I bought it around 2 years ago

rjk · 2 Oct 2014 at 21:47

Jonnycoupe said:
Look at the back axle of an NSX for automotive porn, the back of the Civic is like a Rover 25 for gods sake.

Don't go comparing Hondas to Rovers in this thread.

I can't believe you are all going on about the new CTR one upping the NSX when the real focus should be on the mention of the new CT being better than the ATR which anyone who knows anything is the ULTIMATE TYPE R

Accord Type R. The Power of Dreams

Muffin` · 2 Oct 2014 at 21:51

no one is upping the CTR other than Nath?

Jonnycoupe · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:06

VTAK of the clique Type R just kicked in y0.

rjk · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:07

People moaning that the marketing vid puts the ctr above the nsx as best type r is what I meant.

I'm well up for driving one. Couldn't give a toss what people think about it. I'm interested to see what Honda do with a new platform.

rjk · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:09

Jonnycoupe said:
VTAK of the clique Type R just kicked in y0.

I'll send the bee keepers round eh?

Jonnycoupe · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:28

It will be interesting to see what the front suspension is as it's something like revo knuckle with 'twin kingpin' axis quoted.

lemonade · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:29

Drizmod said:
Thanks! im pretty sure its a K20a3. Does this mean I dont need to get the chain changed? Car has done 115k miles so far and not a single issue since I bought it around 2 years ago

Nope no need, they aren't a service item like timing belts. You only need to change them if they become faulty, which they do eventually at some point, they usually wear and stretch and become noisy.

Simon · 2 Oct 2014 at 22:42

rjkoneill said:
People moaning that the marketing vid puts the ctr above the nsx as best type r is what I meant.

I'm well up for driving one. Couldn't give a toss what people think about it. I'm interested to see what Honda do with a new platform.

New platform ?

rjk · 2 Oct 2014 at 23:10

Is the new civic chassis and engine not classed as a new platform? Apologies if not.

NathWraith · 3 Oct 2014 at 08:15

I'm just being open minded.

We have a lot of people who have never driven an NSX saying it's going to be a better drive than the new Type R which Honda themselves say is better.