Poll: UEFA Euro 2020 Final Italy v England ** spoilers ** [Sunday 11th July 2021]

Shall we lock this thread for the 90 minutes the game is on?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 43.1%
  • No

    Votes: 124 56.9%

  • Total voters
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He's been more than honest in interviews and respectful when ultimately treat like trash. He's no need to lie, I believe he would have happily taken on of the first 5, the gaffa had other ideas.

Why are you hung up on penalties. On any other day they would have scored. Rashford is a very good penalty taker as is Sancho. Just that night it wasn't theirs. I see no problem with the selection. I was more surprised with Maguire taking one than anything else.

It's the 90 odd minutes of rubbish 5 at the back football that was the problem that caused us to lose not the penalty takers.
 
I’m English but I’m so glad Football is not coming home. What an arrogant bunch we are thinking we could win this.

We had an easy route to the final, anything less than reaching the final would have been unacceptable.

I hope we get a tough group in the WC and not qualify, that’ll show the world we are a bang average squad.

People like you are complete helmets tbh. I've no idea why you would even watch the national side with that kind of attitude.

Bang average but took the best team in the tournament to pens, their goal was one any team could concede bouncing around the box off a corner.
 
Why are you hung up on penalties. On any other day they would have scored. Rashford is a very good penalty taker as is Sancho. Just that night it wasn't theirs.

It's the 90 odd minutes of rubbish 5 at the back football that was the problem that caused us to lose not the penalty takers.

Penalties is a lottery, I'm not hung up on the takers apart from Saka going 5th. The game could have easily been wrapped up before hand agreed.
 
I’m English but I’m so glad Football is not coming home. What an arrogant bunch we are thinking we could win this.

We had an easy route to the final, anything less than reaching the final would have been unacceptable.

I hope we get a tough group in the WC and not qualify, that’ll show the world we are a bang average squad.


Anyone who knows the slightest thing about football, including the opposition, knows we could have won.

Self belief is not arrogance.

I really hope the attitude you’re displaying here doesn’t pass over into the rest of your life. You’re only ever going to be a loser if it does.
 
I’m English but I’m so glad Football is not coming home. What an arrogant bunch we are thinking we could win this.

We had an easy route to the final, anything less than reaching the final would have been unacceptable.

I hope we get a tough group in the WC and not qualify, that’ll show the world we are a bang average squad.
I have no words, please don't watch them in future nor cheer and celebrate if we win.
 
You Welsh, Scottish or Irish?

The first half Italy could only take pot shots from 30 yards. They couldn't get a sniff, holding the ball and did nothing.

To say if we went attacking we would have got beat is just insanity.

We have more than enough capability in that team to score multiple goals with a more aggressive set up.

Immobile and Berardi both garbage all tournament.

We bottled it playing too passive and deep, if we had pushed more for a second I believe we would have won comfortably.
Italian father, Scottish mother, it's all surmising at the end of the day, but the possesion was bonkers for the Italians, if you haven't got the ball you can't do anything./
 
I have no words, please don't watch them in future nor cheer and celebrate if we win.
no he's right. We're not as good as people say we are. Definitely tactically and possibly individually. It's rare to get a squad of 100% worldies though. It's about getting the best out of your side. And the tactics did not achieve that. If we go to another tournament with Southgate I hope he gets exposed too.
 
I’m English but I’m so glad Football is not coming home. What an arrogant bunch we are thinking we could win this.

We had an easy route to the final, anything less than reaching the final would have been unacceptable.

I hope we get a tough group in the WC and not qualify, that’ll show the world we are a bang average squad.

Yeah let's hope we lose. What a ridiculous mindset.
 
Yeah let's hope we lose. What a ridiculous mindset.
He's not saying I hope we lose. He's saying I hope southgate's tactical folly is properly exposed so we can get a manager who can get the best out of our squad while there's still time for them to achieve something.
 
no he's right. We're not as good as people say we are. Definitely tactically and possibly individually. It's rare to get a squad of 100% worldies though. It's about getting the best out of your side. And the tactics did not achieve that. If we go to another tournament with Southgate I hope he gets exposed too.

Bizarre mindset to me that. Even if you don't like the chaps style of management, wishing him ill future events just so you can be proved right is... odd.
 
Bizarre mindset to me that. Even if you don't like the chaps style of management, wishing him ill future events just so you can be proved right is... odd.

i think he is not wishing him ill, just wishing for him to be exposed and replaced with a more tactically astute manager before he leads them into another coach park.
 
He's not going anywhere either way, he will be here for the WC and probably 2024 unless we have an absolute shocker.
 
Italian father, Scottish mother, it's all surmising at the end of the day, but the possesion was bonkers for the Italians, if you haven't got the ball you can't do anything./
I agree, but that was Southgates gameplan. But to say if we went for it we would get smashed is just rubbish. We have the players more than capable but we will never no unfortunately.

That said all this doom and gloom rubbish would be far more different had we won the lottery on pens.

We held our own and did better than I expected.
 
Such contrast of weirdos in this thread.

On one hand you have self defeatist betas who’ve never seen a real pair of breasts and on the other you’ve got people who believe they’re more qualified than a bloke who took England to the first final in 55 years.

Say what you want about Southgate but his record is pretty consistent and on an upward trajectory. You don’t do what England just did by accident or through luck.
 
no he's right. We're not as good as people say we are. Definitely tactically and possibly individually. It's rare to get a squad of 100% worldies though. It's about getting the best out of your side. And the tactics did not achieve that. If we go to another tournament with Southgate I hope he gets exposed too.

third at the world cup

2nd in the euros

think the results say otherwise
 
People can't seem to separate results and performance. 2nd in the Euros if you have an average squad is great, 2nd in the Euros when you have the strongest squad is not so great.
 
He's not saying I hope we lose. He's saying I hope southgate's tactical folly is properly exposed so we can get a manager who can get the best out of our squad while there's still time for them to achieve something.

Exactly when Qatar comes around TTA will hopefully be fit. Dean Henderson will be recognised number 1 (Pickford had a good tournament to be fair), Rashford will be fit, Greenwood will become the player we think he can be. Their is a lot to look forward too but it is a worry if we continue to play this relegation team type football. Especially with the squad he will have by then.
 
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