UEFA Euro 2024 Final Spain v England ** spoilers ** [Sunday 14th July 2024]

[uscool]

I don't think we give the players enough credit. Getting through due to flashes of brilliance is exactly that. Struggling to get past lesser teams is then suddenly down to Southgate. Surely the amazing pool of talent we have can use 'luck' and 'flashes of brilliance' to just glide past these teams?
The other view of it is that those teams are very well organised to sit behind the ball and make life difficult for other sides. More power to them, that's how less talented teams get further in tournaments. There's a balance to be struck of good management / coaching, and individual talent, and I believe the reason we've done so well 2 tournaments running (remember, we couldn't even get past a penalty shootout for about 15 years, now it seems routine) is a combination of the two.

sit behind the ball and make life difficult for other sides. More power to them, that's how less talented teams get further in tournaments , we doing that against lesser teams you say southgate is a great coach surely we should be beating these comfortably and not hoping for moments

being better at penalties I think thats more to do with the players who are the main penalty takers for club so have the experience think in the past they didnt tend to be the main penalty takers for club

 

[Christmas themed thank]

Nobody wants to discuss how close we were to losing against Slovakia then?

 

[Ayahuasca]

Nobody wants to discuss how close we were to losing against Slovakia then?

It was discussed to death at the time.

You can go through the history books and see countless examples of teams that went on to win the tournament and had similar moments.

 

[a1ex2001]

Nobody who watched the Spain game can tell me that England were anywhere close to winning it. They were completely out-classed from the first minute.

I think you must have been watching a different game, Spain were clearly the better side but then we knew that before kick off. England dug in kept the game close and ultimately fell short against a very good side as did France and Germany.

 

[uscool]

It was discussed to death at the time.

You can go through the history books and see countless examples of teams that went on to win the tournament and had similar moments.

I think England had them moments more than usual throughout this tournament, spain had its moment vs Germany thats about it but thats a top team

 

[uscool]

I think you must have been watching a different game, Spain were clearly the better side but then we knew that before kick off. England dug in kept the game close and ultimately fell short against a very good side as did France and Germany.

the score might say it was close, France and Germany actually gave them a better game

 

[rhobbyh]

This is absolutely made for Lampard, give him a long unbreakable contract and see just see what he can do

 

[bingham67]

So its all waistcoats and half mast today then.

 

[Raymond Lin]

History will 100% look back on Southgate in a positive light.

Chances are we will not get to 2 finals and a semi finals in a row. Then we will think we were amazing.

If we do manage to win a trophy under the next manager, then Southgate will get some credit in putting down some foundation to set the team off in the right direction, at least mentally in getting through stages in cup competitions.

 

[dave28]

Throwing objects at Gareth was a massive insult, I am not one bit surprised he has walked.

 

[Ayahuasca]

at least mentally in getting through stages in cup competitions.

Apparently they've all been mentally scarred by Southgate, and it's going to take 8 years of Klopp to provide the proverbial therapy they need.

 

[Shamikebab]

I thought for sure they'd already made a deal with Potter, it was the only reason I could think that he'd rejected the Ajax job.

 

[adam cool dude]

Throwing objects at Gareth was a massive insult, I am not one bit surprised he has walked.

He was the highest paid manager in the Euro's. If you are not delivering the goods what do you expect? I would quite happily have stuff thrown at me for 5 million a year.

 

[Ayahuasca]

He was the highest paid manager in the Euro's. If you are not delivering the goods what do you expect? I would quite happily have stuff thrown at me for 5 million a year.

Nonsense.

 

[a1ex2001]

I thought for sure they'd already made a deal with Potter, it was the only reason I could think that he'd rejected the Ajax job.

If it is then it is likely we will see England at least attempt to be more flexible, let’s hope it’s more Brighton era Potter and less Chelsea ear we get!

 

[Converge]

Straight swap? Howe replaced by Southgate and Howe in for the England job, right?

 

[Irish_Tom]

Straight swap? Howe replaced by Southgate and Howe in for the England job, right?

No thanks.

 

[Karl]

We wouldn't have even got out of Spains group, we have had exceptional luck with fixtures which has papered over the cracks.

100% agree we had a favourable route to the final.

 

[Converge]

No thanks.

Ah, go on… At least so he’s not an option to replace ETH

 

[adidan]

Thanks for all you've done Gareth.

Time for the next chapter.