Poll: UK Gun Laws
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There isn't really any formal training - to have a genuine reason to get certain weapons on your certificate can inherently mean having to have gone through a certain amount of processes to get there though. Shotguns are different to rifles as well - they generally need a reason to deny you a shotgun whereas rifles are the other way around and you need a reason to own and as you go up through the power levels, etc. that becomes increasingly harder to justify.
This is where we disagree, as under the controls of a professional service regulation should be higher, vetting should be more frequent, I don't know much about guns but potentially constraints can be put on gun types/ ammunition types etc.
And it may not be the same number, if implemented successfully, as the farming community share a lot of services already.
See above.
Well IMO higher regulation (within reason) and more frequent vetting should be a thing professional service or not. The rest doesn't actually stand up to the needs of real farming and similar environments, for the most part they are already at the level where it is practical to share services in that respect.
Sorry but given some of your past posts I really can't take you seriously on this.
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Actually, there was a survivalist bloke in the USA who modified a US deer hunting compound crossbow (200 ftlbs draw weight) by using a hydraulic digger arm piston from a JCB digger to draw the bow automatically. He made a gravity fed box magazine to load the modified (cut-down) bolts and had the compressed gas tank for the hydraulic piston in a rucksack on his back. He was able to accurately fire 8 bolts semi-automatically (using a laser sight) before needing to reload the box magazine. Not something that Joe-average could put together though.
Not seen that one but I've seen at least 2 people on YT project build high draw weight, semi or fully automatic magazine fed bows. Mostly hideously impractical but still.
Was it that pick-up jab?
If you encompass their use under a regulated, professional service, then it will aid higher regulation etc.
Also, what doesn't stand up to the needs of farmers?
But there is a difference. Yes, they will still have access, but potentially not at home.
It all depends on how it would be implemented, it's not an impossible feat as some appear to think.
Do you have a point?
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One of the reasons I have very low tolerances when it comes to this subject - so many people just want them banned without a care as to anyone else's enjoyment but are also the first to cry when the boot is on the other foot.
Reminds me of Eve Online with all the HTFU posts when people complained about changes but then a couple of years down the line those HTFU people were the first ones complaining when changes came along which heavily impacted their area of the game.
Was it that pick-up jab?
No just the most recent to mind of your posts which make it difficult to believe you are posting genuinely when not understanding the difficulties with what you are suggesting.
You can't really have a poke at people for being town/city people then show zero understanding of what goes on in the country LOL.
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Firstly, it took a million posts for you to actually "spell out" said difficulties.
Secondly, I've never claimed to not understand them, however I feel solutions could be found to negate these difficulties.
Unfortunately, you seem hesitant to discuss in any real detail so I'm inclined to think you've already noticed some holes...
How does this situation remind you of that? You appear to have made a scenario up in your head. May I remind you of the incident which sparked this thread.
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lol turn what around? You're not actually helping this debate with these random, non-informative posts.
Please spell it out to me, as you say.
I've responded to all your posts and questions, you've ignored quite of few of my questions and resort to your rhetoric of 'dumb poster don't know how much fun guns are'.
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Nothing needs changing, posh city folk who potter around to the country will always want guns.
Posh folk rule/run the country nothing wrong with the laws we already have, its rare it happens, sooner they did it in a nice office instead of being pushed off a bridge and blocking my way home.
Posh folk rule/run the country nothing wrong with the laws we already have, its rare it happens, sooner they did it in a nice office instead of being pushed off a bridge and blocking my way home.
If you had any kind of understanding at all you'd realise the problems with your own suggestions and not waste ours and your time with them, and it is hard to believe given your general posting history you are that ignorant of the problems... the issues really aren't even that difficult to comprehend unless you've really lived an incredibly sheltered life - which your posting history goes against.
So basically you seem like a huge time waster.
So basically, no you won't/can't spell it out... so why are you engaging me? You state your position but don't provide reasoning. OK, cool.
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It's the ultimate card the farmers pull - to call everyone "city folk" and say they just don't understand. Well, I grew up on a farm and I'm calling that card BS! I agree with you NVP, the laws surrounding farmers and farm hands and guns are far too lapse.
The irony is NVP was doing the LOL city folk thing a few posts ago.
Don't personally disagree that the laws around firearms and farms need some tightening up, I've a fair few first hand experiences with it, but the stuff NVP was talking about is completely detached from reality and none of it takes any thinking about to understand why so I can't believe they are posting genuinely.