Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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A clear majority of the British population wants to remain a unified state that doesn't stop the Scots, Welsh, Irish or Cornish populations wanting and having the right to leave and take their own independent path in their parts of the islands.
 
Yeah, you don't count, being scorza's second account.

Considering your Mensa IQ, I assume there is sound reasoning behind your bold conclusion. Mind sharing?

A clear majority of the British population wants to remain a unified state that doesn't stop the Scots, Welsh, Irish or Cornish populations wanting and having the right to leave and take their own independent path in their parts of the islands.

Yes Crimeea had the "right" to be invaded by a foreign army, organise a referum under its close watch and then present fake results which show massive support for the annexation of the region by the army's country. Makes perfect sense!
 
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http://albertonardelli.tumblr.com/post/83217046292/dissecting-public-opinion-in-east-ukraine

More opinion poll analysis undermining the arguments of the pro-Russia militants in eastern Ukraine.

In conclusion, scepticism towards the current government has more to do with concerns over the regions’ future than support for the ousted administration and pro-Russian sentiment. Being “pro-Russia” in this context fundamentally reflects wanting Ukraine to maintain and strengthen ties with Russia; these regions feeling closer to Russia than to the EU if they have to choose between the two; and significant concerns among what is a large Russian-speaking population. There isn’t much evidence to say that this all implies wanting Russia to intervene in Ukraine’s affairs or a majority wanting to leave Ukraine to join Russia today.
 
Considering your Mensa IQ, I assume there is sound reasoning behind your bold conclusion. Mind sharing?



Yes Crimeea had the "right" to be invaded by a foreign army, organise a referum under its close watch and then present fake results which show massive support for the annexation of the region by the army's country. Makes perfect sense!

An army that didn't have to move in this "invasion" you talk of, do you honestly think the ethnicly Russian Ukrainians weren't scared out of membership of the Ukraine state by the fascist murderers who obviously hate them?
 
An army that didn't have to move in this "invasion" you talk of, do you honestly think the ethnicly Russian Ukrainians weren't scared out of membership of the Ukraine state by the fascist murderers who obviously hate them?

They did move out of their military base and crossed international borders, it was a textbook invasion, what are you smoking? There was no violence targetted at Russians in Ukraine, quite the contrary, the Ukrainian Maidan protestors were murdered.
 
Tanks, armed assault in Mariupol city center, casualties reported (VIDEO)

"Kiev fighters opened fire on civilians" not surprising considering Kiev have a junta in charge

So basically the army attacked a building where the police were holed up, the local residents attempted to mob the army to save the police (it worked well last time they tried it, the army even surrendered it's APCs) and the army fired on the civilians.

Personally speaking I don't really see how civilians can attempt to intervene in a military battle and still play their "civilian card".
 
Exactly! Pro russians attacked the ukranians while being protected by the corrupt police then saw that they bit more than they could chew and ran for cover which was hen set on fire.

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Full picture set of the events in Odessa: http://magnus-ff.livejournal.com/27816.html

Looks like they even forgot to remove their Telnyashka's first, oh dear.

Indeed the Police did give them COVER and allow ARMED provocateurs to FIRE upon the Pro-Ukrainians, making the police accountable, which Kiev has already stated. It Didn't take long for the corrupt Pro-Russian Police (Pro-Russian = More bribes) to run away when things got out of control. This is exactly what they needed to happen to help spin the lie about Right Sektor Boogie men have taken over the Ukraine and are coming to get you.


Its this kind of photographic evidence certain Putinists didn't check or more likely are trying to hide in this forum.

I seem to recall crying of (Daily star Headlines) 'Massacre of UNARMED & PEACEFUL civilians' type of spin early on in this thread when it was way to early to come to any conclusion of what happened at all.

Common sense is alive and well in this thread.
 
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Wow, do scorza and nersuy have day jobs? Some serious arguing going on in this thread! Who needs a civil war when you have got these two at logger heads.

Nerusy 'appears' to have an agenda to paint a false picture on what’s really happening while making statements about how he is spreading the 'Real Truth' when in fact it could not be further from it.

As long as its anti western establishment (which don't like btw but I am over it) I think he feels he is here to educate brainwashed westerners who can't see past mainstream news outlets.

One of those damaged people who can't get over the Iran/Iraq affair
Drones,bombs,spying evil empire USA ????

Repeatedly spams out third rate propaganda on par with Russian sate TV which has a childish element to it. This kind of thing works in remote provinces for which it was intended but not here, which is why its failing badly.
 
I really think the CIA/Western agencies should have thought this through a bit more before financing the coup to displace Yanukovich.

The entire mess we are seeing now is down to the US/EU trouble-makers.
 
I really think the CIA/Western agencies should have thought this through a bit more before financing the coup to displace Yanukovich.

The entire mess we are seeing now is down to the US/EU trouble-makers.

Wow thanks for that deep analysis. that was really a valuable contribution to a 70+ page thread. Well done, have a GD Star of Merit!
 
that was always Putin's bag, harking back to the USSR good times when Russia went everywhere with size 9s and kicked down any unopen doors. Its kind of convulsions of end of empire, with backfires buzzing scotland and this sort of nonsense on their doorstep. We went through it too, with events like Suez, where it took a while to realise we were no longer the all powerful British Empire.

Putin is just learning the lesson faster because instead of bombs and bullets, theyre being battered through the economy. No ex-empire likes to fade away without a struggle but at some point theyre going to have face reality. Hopefully before they kick off WWIII.
 
Nulir still paints the Odessa massacre in pro Ukrainian fascist light, good for him I suppose, he is far too ignorant to know better.

Those thugs opening fire on pro ukranians should be punished, police chief who conspired with them is already fired and under the investigation. Whereas people who burned, shot at and beat to death those people escaping fire will never be punished for their savagery due to bloodthirsty ignorant folks like Nulir who thinks everybody who oposes his ignorant limited view is an enemy. So naive ;)
 
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that was always Putin's bag, harking back to the USSR good times when Russia went everywhere with size 9s and kicked down any unopen doors. Its kind of convulsions of end of empire, with backfires buzzing scotland and this sort of nonsense on their doorstep. We went through it too, with events like Suez, where it took a while to realise we were no longer the all powerful British Empire.

Putin is just learning the lesson faster because instead of bombs and bullets, theyre being battered through the economy. No ex-empire likes to fade away without a struggle but at some point theyre going to have face reality. Hopefully before they kick off WWIII.

Exactly. Instead of creating an industry, an infrastructure, a long term plan for when oil/gas run out, Putin grabs land, even if Russia has more of it than any country on Earth. Instead of going forward, the country is going backwards and any progress made in the last 25 years is slowly being erased.

There won't be a WWIII, Russia has no allies, no foreign policy other than to bully its neighbours and you can't win wars by throwing human bodies at the front, not anymore. In the end, it won't be Ukrainians, Georgians or Moldovans who will suffer the most, it will be Russians.
 
Looks like they even forgot to remove their Telnyashka's first, oh dear.

Are you actually trying to use that to say they were Russian troops? because they were wearing the undergarments worn by the Soviet military, while in a former Soviet state, awash with surplus military stuff, and where the local military still wear the things as part of their uniform?

That's like saying every person who took part in the London riots while wearing camo pants was British Army!
 
Are you actually trying to use that to say they were Russian troops? because they were wearing the undergarments worn by the Soviet military, while in a former Soviet state, awash with surplus military stuff, and where the local military still wear the things as part of their uniform?

That's like saying every person who took part in the London riots while wearing camo pants was British Army!

Yet another example of Nulir spread of misinformation and propaganda, do you work for daily mail Nulir? You fit in the stereotype quite well.
 
Are you actually trying to use that to say they were Russian troops? because they were wearing the undergarments worn by the Soviet military, while in a former Soviet state, awash with surplus military stuff, and where the local military still wear the things as part of their uniform?

That's like saying every person who took part in the London riots while wearing camo pants was British Army!

wrong No I am not trying to say those are Russian Soldiers at all

Yet another example of Nulir spread of misinformation and propaganda, do you work for daily mail Nulir? You fit in the stereotype quite well.

Not everyone who disagrees with you are nazis or right wing you know
No I don't like the Daily Mail although it is quite comical at times
 
Not everyone who disagrees with you are nazis or right wing you know
No I don't like the Daily Mail although it is quite comical at times

Buhahah that's rich coming from someone who screams bloody murder when I correct your propagandistic misinformation.
 
Nulir still paints the Odessa massacre in pro Ukrainian fascist light, good for him I suppose, he is far too ignorant to know better.

I have never done this, in fact it prove you just can't look past the fake old 'Fascists' story line Russian Media uses and abuses.

Those thugs opening fire on pro ukranians should be punished, police chief who conspired with them is already fired and under the investigation. Whereas people who burned, shot at and beat to death those people escaping fire will never be punished for their savagery due to bloodthirsty ignorant folks like Nulir who thinks everybody who oposes his ignorant limited view is an enemy. So naive ;)

whut? ok it started out ok your backing down a little, then you went off base like to Mars dude.

How do you know they won't be punnished? Broad brush statement.

Yes I hope anyone who crossed the line that day gets caught and punnished

Shock horror, relax maybe Nazi moonbases don't exist and they are not under the artic ice maybe they havent taken over the Ukraine too. A possiblilty yes?

Dude you accuse me of being BNP,Nazi,Right Sector, justifier of murder and worst of all a Daily Mail subscriber just because I don't agree with you. And you call me Naive
 
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