Soldato
What is there to negotiate? If Russia wants an end to this they can leave Ukraine at any time.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Soldato
We could offer Russia your living room.
Soldato
Still no sign of Putin?
Funny how regions that had local warlords armed and financed by Moscow became ‘pro-Russian’ while the rest of the Donbas didn’t?? Nor all those Russian speaking cities like Kharkiv or mariupol (before it was flattened). Someone really ought to tell the Ukrainians they’re supposed to be pro Russian, the silly Billy’s.
Russia wasn’t going to give back Kherson city, which also weirdly ‘voted’ massively in favour of being Russian. But in the end they were forced to. Just like they’ve been forced to leave Kharkiv oblast/province.
Your snarky comment when someone suggested they’ll take back the rest, which isn’t out of the question given they’ve succeeded in every major counter so far, kinda gives away your position in this though.
Soldato
It depends - are you expecting Russia not to continue to be aggressive and invade sovereign states?
The bottom line is the war continues as long as Ukraine continue to wish todo so.
Sorry you think that this war is only up to the west.. it's a war that Russia wished.
Ukraine's misery doesn't stop here if they give up now and we've seen throughout history appeasement now just emboldens tyrants causing much more damage in the long run.
Your sentiments might be well meaning but utterly out of sync with how this will play out in the real world.
EDIT: Strangely enough those eastern regions tend to have a dramatic change of heart after a bit of Russian occupation...
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Soldato
I'm in my 50s thanks and unlike you I'm not wetting my pants because "Russia nukes"
Amazing you people who are happy for territory to just be handed over to an invading country. You'd have been right next to Chamberlain in the late 1930s appeasing Hitler just as you seem happy to appease Putin. Grow a backbone man ffs.
The plan is to supply Ukraine with everything they need to drive Russia out of Ukraine and get back to the 2014 borders.
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The same plan since day 1, break the Russian army in Ukraine and break the Russian home economy and restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine back to the pre 2014 boarders.
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Is that you Vlad?, I thought you were dead
Soldato
It's always funny to me how people are demanding Ukraine to put an end to things despite them not being the ones to start them.
How about Russia goes back to it's absolutely enormous country which is way bigger than most countries have any right to?
How about Russia goes back to it's absolutely enormous country which is way bigger than most countries have any right to?
Soldato
I know, it's almost like seeing over 250,000 dead and wounded soldiers plus tens of thousands of dead civilians makes people want to stop the killing rather than think it's better to keep the killing going, the weirdos!
As always, my usual disclaimer that "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" still stands, which you have to add nowadays because otherwise the hate-filled "progressive" members of OcUK who have fetishised Russian deaths (but would never join a Ukrainian volunteer force) will call me pro-Russian, yet again.
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I know, it's almost like seeing over 250,000 dead and wounded soldiers plus tens of thousands of dead civilians makes people want to stop the killing rather than think it's better to keep the killing going, the weirdos!
As always, my usual disclaimer that "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" still stands, which you have to add nowadays because otherwise the hate-filled "progressive" members of OcUK who have fetishised Russian deaths (but would never join a Ukrainian volunteer force) will call me pro-Russian, yet again.
The problem is that many, Ukraine included, can see that this just kicks the problem down the road and could lead to more deaths longer term.
Soldato
@CaptainRAVE - I absolutely agree with you, I just find it off-putting the way so many in here jump all over a person simply because they want the killing to end.
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Have the Challenger 2 tanks left yet?
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I know, it's almost like seeing over 250,000 dead and wounded soldiers plus tens of thousands of dead civilians makes people want to stop the killing rather than think it's better to keep the killing going, the weirdos!
As always, my usual disclaimer that "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" still stands, which you have to add nowadays because otherwise the hate-filled "progressive" members of OcUK who have fetishised Russian deaths (but would never join a Ukrainian volunteer force) will call me pro-Russian, yet again.
It's not Ukraines fault though is it?
If Russia leave, great, no one has to die (I've said here before that the deaths are tragic and that includes the Russian side), if not, then this will just continue because Ukraine can't afford to roll over and let Russia win.
Your stance seems very pro-Russian to me, because what you often wind up saying equates to "Ukraine should stop fighting". You presumably don't spend equal time on Russian speaking forums asking them to stop the war in Ukraine to save lives?
Soldato
I know, it's almost like seeing over 250,000 dead and wounded soldiers plus tens of thousands of dead civilians makes people want to stop the killing rather than think it's better to keep the killing going, the weirdos!
As always, my usual disclaimer that "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" still stands, which you have to add nowadays because otherwise the hate-filled "progressive" members of OcUK who have fetishised Russian deaths (but would never join a Ukrainian volunteer force) will call me pro-Russian, yet again.
I'm sure Ukrainians will be humbled by your willingness for them to give up their own land just to put an end to the war. Ridiculous. None of this is Ukraine's doing and if they wish to reclaim all of their territory then you bet we should all be 100% behind them.
Soldato
I haven't seen any videos of them being moved through Poland yet but there's a good chance Ukrainians have already sent crews to the Baltic countries for training on them (we sent a fleet out there to shaw up that part of NATO when those countries gave up their tanks to Ukriane at the start of the war).
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