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Stumble Bum said:
So come on then Einstein, how to do they end the war and stop the killing without Ukraine conceding their own land?

You're living in an idealist world where you think Russia will/should just turn around and leave???? Bizarre.
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Are you paid to write this crap, or have the FSB got a gun to your children's heads?

Show us any point in History where conceding land to a fascist dictator has ended well.

The only way this can end is with Putin's head on a noose, either from within, or at the Hague.

Russia doesn't have to turn around. They can continue to waste their wealth, future and an entire generation of young men to gain a devestated wasteland.
 
Bug One said:
Are you paid to write this crap, or have the FSB got a gun to your children's heads?

Show us any point in History where conceding land to a fascist dictator has ended well.

The only way this can end is with Putin's head on a noose, either from within, or at the Hague.

Russia doesn't have to turn around. They can continue to waste their wealth, future and an entire generation of young men to gain a devestated wasteland.
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Huh? Have you even read my post correctly?
 
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Bug One said:
Are you paid to write this crap, or have the FSB got a gun to your children's heads?

Show us any point in History where conceding land to a fascist dictator has ended well.

The only way this can end is with Putin's head on a noose, either from within, or at the Hague.

Russia doesn't have to turn around. They can continue to waste their wealth, future and an entire generation of young men to gain a devestated wasteland.
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I think you quoted the wrong person mate.
 
Stumble Bum said:
Probably because you keep failing to make the connection that ending the war to stop people dying = Russia taking over Ukraine's land. How can you not understand that? This isn't some fairytale where the war can just end without consequences.

So come on then Einstein, how to do they end the war and stop the killing without Ukraine conceding their own land?

You're living in an idealist world where you think Russia will/should just turn around and leave???? Bizarre.
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So glad you weren't in charge in WW2
 
Bug One said:
Yes. You seem to think Ukraine agreeing to concede their territory to stop the war.

This won't stop the war, it will just delay it until Russia can build it's forces up to continue in Putin's grand plan of restoring the former Soviet borders.
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I've literally said the opposite for quite a few posts now. You clearly have misread my point.
 
ianh said:
So like I said, despite quoting my post which specifically said "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" the good old folks of OcUK never surprise me when (and I said it would happen because stupid people will always be stupid) they don't read anything before reacting like a screeching child with it's dummy taken away, as always.

And I would love those folks who quoted my post (@HungryHippos, @Stumble Bum & @alchal) to specifically point out in my post where I said ANYTHING about Ukraine giving up - I'll ******* wait!
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You personally don't, but you defend all those that do.

Basically a nice little get out clause you have there, doesn't work.
 
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capitulation worrying stats from Hybrid warfare coe org on success of russian misinformation - social media to blame
19% of germans , slovakia/hungary > 25%, many greeks & Italians think nato responsible & russian action justified,

seems we should sanction South Africa after todays Lavrov party too.
 
sityeuropa said:
Unless you want to start a world war over Donetsk, Luhansk keep escalating it as you are doing.

Those regions split off from Ukraine when the government was kicked out in 2014.
Fighting there ever since. They don't want to be a part of Ukraine and with the government been couped I can see the reasoning of it.

Russia will not give them up now.
So what do you want a long lasting war? The war mongering West to continue using this as a tool to strip Russia down which will end up worse for every country involved.

Why are we forcing them regions to stay Ukrainian when they do not wish to be.
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So why did Russia try to take Kyiv at the start of the war then?
 
ubersonic said:
Strangely I don't seem to be able to find many on it, there's the WH press archive: https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/04/160711.htm but it seems news articles on it are few and far between which is odd as there were many singing Biden's praises at the time for getting it done.
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Good link. Thank you :)

I'm not sure it would have stopped the war from happening, but it certainly would have given some real meat to fire back with that's for sure. In hindsight, definitely seems like a poor choice.

Perhaps that's the lesson. Russia is just being Russia, and it doesn't really give a ****, and we should never had pretended they were 'doing better'. Maybe one day they will be grown up enough to stop thinking everyone wants to invade them, or that everything that looks shiny is theirs.
 
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