Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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*Erdogan Says Sweden Should Not Expect Turkish Support for Its NATO Membership After Protest at Turkish Embassy
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From what I can gather Turkey is annoyed that the Swedish police give permission to the guy to do his protest outside the Turkish embassy.. were he burned the Quran.

I wonder sometimes if this situation was allowed to happen because someone doesn't want Sweden (and Finland) to join Nato.
 
BowdonUK said:
From what I can gather Turkey is annoyed that the Swedish police give permission to the guy to do his protest outside the Turkish embassy.. were he burned the Quran.

I wonder sometimes if this situation was allowed to happen because someone doesn't want Sweden (and Finland) to join Nato.
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It was utterly moronic of the Swedes to let that protest go ahead when they are trying to get Turkish backing.
 
sityeuropa said:
Russia is not going to leave the Eastern regions now.

They were autonomous and pro russian before due to the Ukraine government being overthrown. Russia will not leave them now.
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They have never been autonomous regions. Where do you get that info from? Donetsk and Luhansk are part of Ukraine.
You get rid of one troll then you get another. Weirdly they only respond on daytime work hours. Is there no overtime in the farm?
 
BowdonUK said:
From what I can gather Turkey is annoyed that the Swedish police give permission to the guy to do his protest outside the Turkish embassy.. were he burned the Quran.

I wonder sometimes if this situation was allowed to happen because someone doesn't want Sweden (and Finland) to join Nato.
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They also hung and burned an effigy of Erdoğan.

It was actually a pretty good likeness, so posts for effort there!

It wasn't a conspiracy to jeep Ukraine out of nato, but an effort to stop Sweden extraditing Kurd's to Turkey as part if the deal.
 
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ianh said:
I know, it's almost like seeing over 250,000 dead and wounded soldiers plus tens of thousands of dead civilians makes people want to stop the killing rather than think it's better to keep the killing going, the weirdos! :rolleyes:

As always, my usual disclaimer that "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" still stands, which you have to add nowadays because otherwise the hate-filled "progressive" members of OcUK who have fetishised Russian deaths (but would never join a Ukrainian volunteer force) will call me pro-Russian, yet again.
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Not pro russian, you just don't seem to recognise that Ukrainians want to kick Russia out and reclaim thier lands and....well, payback for Mariupol and all the other atrocities they have committed.

Would you have wanted us to negotiate with Hitler because of casualties and a quick end to the war?

And no, he will never 110% use nukes
 
So like I said, despite quoting my post which specifically said "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" the good old folks of OcUK never surprise me when (and I said it would happen because stupid people will always be stupid) they don't read anything before reacting like a screeching child with it's dummy taken away, as always.

And I would love those folks who quoted my post (@HungryHippos, @Stumble Bum & @alchal) to specifically point out in my post where I said ANYTHING about Ukraine giving up - I'll ******* wait!
 
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ianh said:
So like I said, despite quoting my post which specifically said "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" the good old folks of OcUK never surprise me when (and I said it would happen because stupid people will always be stupid) they don't read anything before reacting like a screeching child with it's dummy taken away, as always.

And I would love those folks who quoted my post (@HungryHippos, @Stumble Bum & @alchal) to specifically point out in my post where I said ANYTHING about Ukraine giving up - I'll ******* wait!
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Probably because you keep failing to make the connection that ending the war to stop people dying = Russia taking over Ukraine's land. How can you not understand that? This isn't some fairytale where the war can just end without consequences.

So come on then Einstein, how to do they end the war and stop the killing without Ukraine conceding their own land?

You're living in an idealist world where you think Russia will/should just turn around and leave???? Bizarre.
 
ianh said:
So like I said, despite quoting my post which specifically said "THIS IS ALL RUSSIA'S FAULT AND THEY SHOULD LEAVE" the good old folks of OcUK never surprise me when (and I said it would happen because stupid people will always be stupid) they don't read anything before reacting like a screeching child with it's dummy taken away, as always.

And I would love those folks who quoted my post (@HungryHippos, @Stumble Bum & @alchal) to specifically point out in my post where I said ANYTHING about Ukraine giving up - I'll ******* wait!
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Because you quoted my post where I said Ukraine aren't the ones we should be calling on to end this, by disagreeing with me it's assumed you think they somehow can?

Despite this you've provided no method by which they have the power to stop Russia from continuing to wage their war.
 
Unless you want to start a world war over Donetsk, Luhansk keep escalating it as you are doing.

Those regions split off from Ukraine when the government was kicked out in 2014.
Fighting there ever since. They don't want to be a part of Ukraine and with the government been couped I can see the reasoning of it.

Russia will not give them up now.
So what do you want a long lasting war? The war mongering West to continue using this as a tool to strip Russia down which will end up worse for every country involved.

Why are we forcing them regions to stay Ukrainian when they do not wish to be.
 
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sityeuropa said:
Unless you want to start a world war over Donetsk, Luhansk keep escalating it as you are doing.

Those regions split off from Ukraine when the government was kicked out in 2014.
Fighting there ever since. They don't want to be a part of Ukraine and with the government been couped I can see the reasoning of it.

Russia will not give them up now.
So what do you want a long lasting war? The war mongering West to continue using this as a tool to strip Russia down which will end up worse for every country involved.

Why are we forcing them regions to stay Ukrainian when they do not wish to be.
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Amnesia, is that you?
 
sityeuropa said:
Those regions split off from Ukraine when the government was kicked out in 2014.
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Russian backed separatists taking over a small part of both regions does not make them autonomous, it makes them part of the Russian plan to control more territory and lo and behold, today we have them trying to annex these regions (and some extra for good measure).

Funny, they still don't own the regions they've annexed fully.
 
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