Ukraine has been doing very well logistics wise now theyve gotten into gear.
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Ukraine has been doing very well logistics wise now theyve gotten into gear.
Soldato
Russian tankers are going to have a very very short life expectancy facing Challengers, Leopards and Abrams. I'd expect a major Ukranian offensive if this stuff turns up in numbers.
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I'm way less gung-ho than many of the posters here, but even I am not advocating capitulation from Ukraine.
That's a bad long-term position, for all sorts of reasons.
Trying to be helpful: can you explain whether you're against current levels of military aid, or whether you're against increasing the volume/ capacity?
Right now their ability to fight depends on external supply, equipment and financing. So the decision is not in their hands.
And judging by how measured the support trickle is, the decision is to prolong the fight as much as possible. Doesn't seem to be in best interest of Ukraine people
*Germany to Give Poland Ok This Week to Send Tanks to Ukraine - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-poland-ok-this-week-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-poland-ok-this-week-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine
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Soldato
And yet somehow your solution is peace? How?
They are defending their country. They have not occupied a neighbouring country.
Just tell us about the nukes and we would be done.
There is unfortunately no chance for peace here, not supplying Ukraine with weapons won't achieve peace. Russia has showed themselves to be completely untrustworthy at negotiations, told such bare faced lies in the UN, etc. even a child should be able to see them for what they are and the West doesn't exactly have a spotless track record in that respect either.
The only chance for peace really for Ukraine is for them to be supplied and quickly with what is necessary to fight the Russian forces currently committed to Ukraine, before they can be substantially reinforced by increasing Russian military/industrial mobilisation, to a halt and so expended they have no choice but to leave of their own accord and there is a very narrow window to achieve that and the West is ******* that up a wall... no small thanks to certain individuals and partly the US seems to have too much to gain from seeing Russia bleed - albeit on a bigger scale that might be more beneficial to peace in Europe in the longer run at the expense of Ukraine.
I agree, tell Russia to get out of Ukraine and then we have peace all around.
Soldato
At 55 tons each how will they transport Abrams in great numbers, even an AN124 has a capacity of 2 at a time
Soldato
By rail or road. But most likely rail. There are already significant numbers of Abrams in Europe at forward holding bases. If they were to use stock from USA inventories they would be forward loaded by rail, shipped across on RORO ferries, then moved again by rail from which ever port the land in, likely Poland.
Soldato
If enough abrams, challeys and leopards go they will all be back home in a few months
They wont have enough time to need any serious maintenance
I jest of course but a semi serious point
I am sure hubs coudl be setup in Eu nations (including the uk) for maintenance
Training is definitely a bottleneck and maintenance in the longer run, Poland and 1-2 other nearby countries I believe already does a lot of maintenance for Ukraine but that doesn't help where it is needed in the field.
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Is there, explain why our government giving out contracts to them selves in the hundreds of millions isn't as bad as any where else.
Please enlighten me as to why.
No, we have given them the ability to do it but the decision to fight has been theirs. A distinct difference in the point you're making.
Soldato
Yeah you would hope that the experienced current tank crews would be rotated out enough to get them into the best available, and the less experienced and new guys in the older stuff which will likely take on much more of a support role
Or billions... often friends of the Tory party will mysteriously get contracts for stuff they have no previous expertise in, with varying levels of delivering on the product or service but often with insane levels of overhead for what they do deliver :s
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U.S. sees some Chinese companies helping Russia's Ukraine effort -source
The United States has determined that some Chinese companies are providing non-lethal assistance to Russia for use in the Ukraine war and officials are noting their concern to the Chinese government, a source familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.
www.reuters.com
*Putin Tells Governor of Frontline Belgorod Region That Russian Anti-Air Defences Are Among World’s Best - RIA
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2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the results
How does your country measure up in the 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index?
www.transparency.org
The UK is listed as being #11 globally on the corruption index. Yes it could be better, but Bulgaria (as the example given) is ranked # 78
(To provide a balanced review, Ukraine is listed as #122 as of 2021).
Soldato
And allowing a criminal empire free reign to rape and murder it's way across the country is in the best interest of the Ukrainian populace?
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