The UK has been the world's second largest arms dealer for >10 years. I have no problem with that, because I'd rather it was us than some nutbag country run by a religious fundamentalist or an atheist dictator with a lunatic personality cult.
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The UK has been the world's second largest arms dealer for >10 years. I have no problem with that, because I'd rather it was us than some nutbag country run by a religious fundamentalist or an atheist dictator with a lunatic personality cult.
All 3 of those are uparming. None support peace in Ukraine.
Well, yea, as they are our customers!
How much have we made from $ale$ to the Ukraine?
Major war we must be coining it in as a major arms dealer.
I know. But they're not world leading arms dealers, and they're still a lot weaker than we are.
Last time I checked, Iran and North Korea were not our customers (although with the Tories in power, it would not surprise me). I am aware that we're a major arms exporter to the Saudis, because of course those pesky Yemenis need to be kept in their place.
No idea, but the figure will be considerable.
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New damning report on the possible outcome of Russia's war with Ukraine.
Jesus H Christ I know the frothy loonies need something to justify their precious but thats turned up to 12
The Centre for Brexit Policy, ah yes they are exceedingly likely to be a balanced group and not at all packed with total ******* morons
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Ukraine would have lost to Russia had UK not used Brexit powers
New damning report on the possible outcome of Russia's war with Ukraine.
haha the desperation to find some benefit
Not sure how it would affect our credibility, we're supplying them weapons, they are doing the fighting.
If they get ground down by the Russians through superior numbers, not a lot we can do about that.
Security, Russia isn't going to attack a NATO nation, well they'd be even bigger fools than they are now if they did.
If they get ground down by the Russians through superior numbers, not a lot we can do about that.
Security, Russia isn't going to attack a NATO nation, well they'd be even bigger fools than they are now if they did.
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Ukraine would have lost to Russia had UK not used Brexit powers
New damning report on the possible outcome of Russia's war with Ukraine.
There are other factors there too but I think UK military aid made a significant difference in increasing the chances of Ukraine holding off the Russian invasion and people have a short memory of say the German and French positions early on, Germany even blocked Estonia from sending old soviet artillery that had been sold to them from former East German stocks.
Similar thing with the covid vaccine response and not relying on inefficient EU bureaucrats there, people could say ackchually the UK could have gone it alone on that anyway but back in reality even while on the way out of the EU there was an outcry here at the time when the news broke that the UK would not be joining the EU's vaccine program and had the UK still been in the EU it's rather less that a UK PM would have taken that decision.
Similar issue with this case, you'd have more pressure to stay aligned with France and Germany whereas with a greater degree of independence, the UK can be more nimble in how it responds. Certainly not the only factor though, look at say Corbyn's recent interviews - he dodges the question on whether he would have even authorised the sending of arms with some deflection about how Biden won't provide fighter jets etc.. would be very easy for someone like him to have simply taken the French & German position and stated he was going to try and have a conversation with Putin and how he opposes the invasion but believes peace is the answer... and lots of people would have sucked it up thinking he was a very sensible PM and being thankful that clown Boris wasn't in power as he'd have started WW3 by now etc.
No. Please stop giving the political class excuses for not doing things it could clearly do.
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Try and stick to Ukraine and not go down another Dowie hole of rampant irrelevance. kthx.
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