Again misguided, but that what liberal brainwashing media has achieved.At least you didn't blame Corbyn!
No we are in this mess because an increasing detatched from reality autocratic dictator decided to try and subjugate their neighbour based on paranoid musings and delusions of grandour.
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Caporegime
This is completely inadequate, explains nothing, and opens with a straw man (Russia's borders have not been compromised; they have been respected).
There are no NATO bases next door to Russia, and even if Putin is paranoid about that happening, how does invading Ukraine and stealing her territory solve the problem?
Try again. How would this war have been avoided via negotiation, in your view? Talk me through the process, the rationale, and the respective outcomes for each side.
Yawn, you guys are such a bore.
Same old tired little tropes, no independent or original thought just reading off the same script line for line.
Soldato
Chris Wilson did that a few pages back. I assumed he did it deliberately. I honestly don't understand what folk get from trolling threads.
As with him, SkodaMart and any other Russian apologists, there is nothing to discuss until Russian forces withdraw from Ukraine.
The absurdity of using whataboutery when a country is being invaded just demonstrates an argument from an already weak position.
You really are a nervous nelly aren't you. I guess this nuclear threat is new to you young 'uns, but us old folk have lived through far more nuclear threatening times than these.
And lol at saying someone with 22 years military service has less of a clue about military matters than a guy who works in a call centre in Leeds
So far what I've heard he's utterly clueless. I work for a bank and have never worked in a call centre or even spoken to a customer, why the personal attack?
Soldato
I spent a lot of time in the Trump/Biden threads and I can't think of anyone who said Biden would be the best leader for the US. What most said was Biden would be a better leader than Trump and it was a binary choice. I think history has shown that to be true. The West is united again, NATO is united and about to add 2 important countries to the fold. Ukraine has been supported and has held off Russia from its expansionist exploits. Trump would have waved the white flag the minute Putin stepped over the border, claimed it wasn't our business. He was straight on TV saying what a genius Putin was as soon as he invaded. Biden has supported Ukraine with weapons and intel from before the invasion. Trump withheld weapons in an attempt to blackmail Ukraine to create damaging info on his political rival Biden.
Take your culture wars talk somewhere else, this isn't the thread for that nonsense.
Who was the person that publicly said bring back jobs to America? Who started the shift of reducing external manufacturing.
Most policies take years to filter through the system.
When policies are developed it takes time to see any impact. We are still impacted by Reaganomics, we are still cycling through blair's policies right now.
Biden gave the Enemies Billions of dollars in weapons. Weapons that will mostly be used against the West in the future. (Afghanistan).
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And lol at saying someone with 22 years military service has less of a clue about military matters than a guy who works in a call centre in Leeds
I guess we’ll just have to see what happens in the next few months. I’d bet my pension on there being no nuclear war though…
Caporegime
Trump.
Not Trump.
Fake news.
Hilarious nonsense. Let me know when Afghanistan attacks the West. I won't be holding my breath.
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The guy that got a lot of his stuff made in China?
Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
Donald Trump blasts companies like Ford and Apple for manufacturing some products outside the United States, but Trump does the same thing with his clothing line.
money.cnn.com
China’s factories pull in the profits by making Trump merchandise
Business is booming for campaign paraphernalia despite the president’s fight with Beijing
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Personal attack?
For someone who likes to throw insults around frequently, you really are a bit of a delicate flower aren't you
Soldato
People are probably confused as you used to say you did rotas for a call centre.
Soldato
Actually accurate.
Trump has a habit of making claims without actually saying how. E.g. "The Russia/Ukraine war would not have happened with me in power": Yet he makes zero suggestion of how other than 'he exists' as President. "It would be over in days": No suggestion of how that would happen.
He's a man of hot air that likes to have his ego boosted and make everything about him.
The West had always been United, if that was the case why didn't Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was in power. Why did he wait till Grandpa was in power. Now if you say Trump would have turned the other way, then surly that would have been the best time to attack Ukraine.
Why did Putin attack Ukraine under Obama? And nothing was done about it. The world sat back and watched.
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It seems to be his favourite thing to say over the past few days.Personal attack?
Soldato
He would have done a deal. That suited him and screwed over 40 million people.
Something along the lines of Putey you can have Ukraine but I need a quid pro quo;
Hows about the Russian state puts up a load of hotels, uses my name and pays me royalty on that name. Oh and you need to get all the VCRs of that hotel room gathered up and sent to me?
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You support your "terrorist" and I'll support mine, how about that? It's called freedom of speech and when it suits you you seem to embrace it. From your "certain demographics" ululations in the Begum thread :
"The whole unprecedented stripping of her citizenship was a rash decision to appease and appeal to certain demographics".
You seem to sway between excusing and condemning those with, for example, strong objections to homosexuals and LGBT folk, namely members of the Islamic State and President Putin....
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