I have a helmet, gas mask, CBRN suit and a table to hide under - Putin’s got nothing!
(Ironically this is a lot more than his own troops probably have…)
Oh I don't know....have you seen the size of his table?
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Oh I don't know....have you seen the size of his table?
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Oh I don't know....have you seen the size of his table?
Are you implying he’d let anyone apart from himself underneath it? Assuming Trump isn’t already there wearing out his knee pads…
Some people on here probably do work in a call center and you're insulting them with your use of it as an insult directed at me, I'm a Planning Analyst.
Careful, Chris will get upset again if you start casting any aspersions on Putins' masculinity!
Don't make Chris angry, you won't like him when he gets angry...
You didn't respond to my initial post though, I didn't suggest a nuclear war will happen in the next few months, you said that we could wipe out Russian forces in Ukraine and it would be over in a few days. I'm saying that would result in a nuclear war as Russia doesn't have the conventional means to defend itself so would have to use nukes. I don't think that's even a particular controversial take. If we did start striking Russian forces in Ukraine I'd be heading to an airport and looking for a flight to South America.
Again you've taken it as an insult, when it was just meant to convey your lack of knowledge on the subject compared to the person you were saying is clueless.
Working in a bank is just as relevant to the point. So lets try again shall we
And lol at saying someone with 22 years military service has less of a clue about military matters than a guy who works in a bank in Leeds
Again you've taken it as an insult, when it was just meant to convey your lack of knowledge on the subject compared to the person you were saying is clueless.
Working in a bank is just as relevant to the point. So lets try again shall we
And lol at saying someone with 22 years military service has less of a clue about military matters than a guy who works in a bank in Leeds
Not sure why you're using some weird appeal to authority, I have Uncles who were in the military longer than that and they wouldn't claim to be an expert on this war; I don't think Penfold has done that either.
You are not being clear on what you mean.
Really? (And I asked this already) Do you think Russia will use ICBMs because their forces lose and get pushed out of Ukraine?
Or are you saying they would use ICBMs when their own homeland is being attacked and they are losing conventionally?
Russia would target military targets in Western Europe with tactical nuclear weapons because that is the only way they would have to stop themselves being bombed into the stone age, we would respond in kind, this would result eventually into a full nuclear exchange likely between Britain, the US, and Russia - at minimum.
They would use nuclear tipped cruise missiles fired from their strategic bombers on airfields in Poland and any Western European country where we were launching attacks. We would then respond with nuclear weapons on their military targets, and then they would use ICBM's I expect, and we would too.
After that you guys can have a party in what is left of the burning rubble we used to call Western Civilisation knowing we beat the evil mad man Putin. The Chinese would probably come take over what was left of it under the guise of a humanitarian mission, we'd have to be grateful actually.
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Indeed I often ask those who support what they think of his comments on homosexuality and non white people, funny that they never seem to answer for fear of being outed for thier racist/bigoted ideals
However they also believe Putin's theory of the west been run by Nazis..
Nazis who are both gay/black and Jewish....
Jesus wept it is mind boggling.
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Apologies, the post rate in here is ridiculous and I’ve probably missed more than one reply.
If we chose to intervene directly and not just by supplying weapons, then Russia has already escalated the conflict beyond it’s current level, it’s not just on a whim because we fancied blowing some **** up ourselves one day.
None of this takes place on Russian soil, so this is still purely in self defence of Ukraine due to the invasion. If they start losing forces, which they will, and fast, the idea they’d instantly resort to nukes is laughable - it would open them up to instant reprisals on a similar level and no-one is going to be that stupid. Putin talks a strong game but he doesn’t have the balls to back it up, and I honestly don’t believe much of his military would actually follow through with the orders.
If I’m proven wrong, you can enjoy knowing this fact from your beach villa in Argentina…
You still haven't answered if this escalation scenario you are worried about is happening because
A) Russia lose the conventional war in Ukraine by the Ukranians with support from NATO and are forced to retreat back to their homeland
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B) Russia lose the conventional war in Ukraine by NATO forces and are forced to retreat back to their homeland
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C) Russia itself gets attacked by NATO forces and they can't defend their homeland
Because A) is happening now, there doesn't seem to be any plans for B) and C) just wouldn't happen.
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I'm pretty confident Russia has a plan for a war with NATO, they didn't build all those strategic bombers and tactical nukes purely as a deterrent. Left with no other option they'll fire them at military targets, why wouldn't they? From a Western point of view it is "mad", from a Russian point of view it is part of their military doctrine and the only way they can defend themselves. They aren't just going to allow their entire military to be bombed into the ground while their bombers sit home in base, would we do that?
It depends what you understand about ready. There was no indication during Trump's time he was going to invade.
He did not move any troops until Biden was in power, the signal to invade came in spring 2021, A few months in to Biden term. I think that says a lot.
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It’s not their entire military - just the forces in Ukraine.
I mean, the rest of their military is in just as **** a state anyway, but luckily we have air defence, radar, and a lot of other things that can put their forces out of action if we so wish. You can have all the bombers you want at an airbase armed with all the nukes you can find, but one well placed munition on the runway makes them all useless.
I assume you’ve moved all your money out of your bank and bought some gold with it, in preparation for the post-apocalyptic world that’s coming?
Like I said, that's probably because he was waiting for Trump to further weaken NATO in his second term, but the useless lump of lard didn't win.
Yes, it says he felt he needed to strike now, before Biden repaired the damage Trump had done. He may have thought Biden was weak and wouldn't get involved.
Seems Putin was wrong on all counts.
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Losing in Ukraine isn't "left with no other option". Unless Western forces invade Russia, or mount mass attacks on internal targets within Russia, there will be no launch of nuclear weapons against NATO targets. Why? Well, you already spelled that out.
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If nobody believes daily figures of Russian dead you might want to see the latest Wagner dead soldiers pic on Twitter.
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