Russian propaganda grows more hilarious by the day.
Some of the comments are predictably vile:
Some of the comments are predictably vile:
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They seem to hold out too long, I think they did the same at the Azovstal steel plant. I can understand that they don't want to give up ground , but it's a very costly way of doing it.
Everyone lolling at the Russian casualties taking these places, but far too many Ukranians die too.
I imagine that is what the forces they are moving up now are for - to secure a retreat/pull-back rather than to go in.
Possibly yeah... I mean I guess we don't know for sure how good/bad things are, it's also possible Ukraine very much wants to hold on if they can too.
I've stopped looking at Twitter a lot now as the number of Russian trolls that ate happy to murder their neighbors that was never aggressive is alarming. The number of fakes is absolutely insane as well.
EDIT: Also.. if Russia win, guess who's footing the repair bill? Russia. If they lose, guess who's footing the repair bill? Russia. LOL.
This is where sanctions etc will come into play I would expect.I can't see Russia footing the repair bill if they lose - forced to retreat from Ukraine good luck getting any money out of them, if losing in such a way Russia itself is under threat well that doesn't end well. This isn't some kind of situation where Russia goes "oh fair enough we lost...".
I can't see Russia footing the repair bill if they lose - forced to retreat from Ukraine good luck getting any money out of them, if losing in such a way Russia itself is under threat well that doesn't end well. This isn't some kind of situation where Russia goes "oh fair enough we lost...".
I've stopped looking at Twitter a lot now as the number of Russian trolls that ate happy to murder their neighbors that was never aggressive is alarming. The number of fakes is absolutely insane as well.
EDIT: Also.. if Russia win, guess who's footing the repair bill? Russia. If they lose, guess who's footing the repair bill? Russia. LOL.
I'm pretty sure it'll be us footing the bill if Ukraine win!
Depends. Ukraine is resource rich and could become a center of innovation and production in the EU in the long run. There is a reason why Ukraine was the production and tech hub for the USSR. Ukraine has built aircraft carriers and space rockets and space rocket engines, they've built tanks and guns and have low labour cost and they have tons of resources and can produce a lot of food.
So given all of that; if Ukraine wins and becomes a full EU member with democracy and low corruption and gets investment it needs then it should be able to repay back loans from the West that it needs to rebuild. The UK only just finished paying back it's WW2 rebuild loans to the Americans.
that being said, Ukraine should also have a head start - there is $600 billion of frozen Russian assets that can be given to Ukraine so that they don't need loans from the West
I can't see Russia footing the repair bill if they lose - forced to retreat from Ukraine good luck getting any money out of them, if losing in such a way Russia itself is under threat well that doesn't end well. This isn't some kind of situation where Russia goes "oh fair enough we lost...".
Depends. Ukraine is resource rich and could become a center of innovation and production in the EU in the long run. There is a reason why Ukraine was the production and tech hub for the USSR. Ukraine has built aircraft carriers and space rockets and space rocket engines, they've built tanks and guns and have low labour cost and they have tons of resources and can produce a lot of food.
So given all of that; if Ukraine wins and becomes a full EU member with democracy and low corruption and gets investment it needs then it should be able to repay back loans from the West that it needs to rebuild. The UK only just finished paying back it's WW2 rebuild loans to the Americans.
that being said, Ukraine should also have a head start - there is $600 billion of frozen Russian assets that can be given to Ukraine so that they don't need loans from the West
I'm pretty sure it'll be us footing the bill if Ukraine win!
If they could have that then, why aren't they been given it now?
What about their 500 billion or so in seized assets?