1783, duh. No more, no less. It gets uncomfortable then.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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PhD in digital training of nursing. The more you look the worse it gets. Or the more subscribers he gained the more loony his views became. Got to keep chasing the £
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Christ, has that idiot moved on to try and keep current?
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Pretty much what he is doing now. Kill the parents, kidnap the children, move in Russians. Oh look its ethnically Russian!
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What loony views? Have you watched a single video, or do you just listen to CNN on repeat?
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Ill be honest I'm pretty confused with regards to the legit(if that's even possible) claim to Crimea, can someone Sunday school it for me?
Don't need to look any further than 1991. The Russian federation didn't exist before then.
Didn't Ukraine forcibly remove the independent Crimean government in 1995?
Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Wikipedia
The pro Russian President won a massive majority, because most people who live in Crimea are Russian. Weird.
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Didn't Ukraine forcibly remove the independent Crimean government in 1995?
Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Wikipedia
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The pro Russian President won a massive majority, because most people who live in Crimea are Russian. Weird.
Didn't there used to be a bunch of Crimean natives who got shipped away by the USSR? So weird!
So Ukraine owns Crimea on that basis? Ukraine, Russia, and Crimea were all part of the USSR.
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It owns it on the basis of it's independence that Crimea supported and that Russia has repeatedly said it would respect until it decided to renege on all those promises.
And don't even bother trying to say the referendum in 2014 or whatever was legitimate, it wasn't, end of.
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It fell to Ukraine, whether Russia liked it or not, and Russia doesn't really have more claim to it than Ukraine does, they didn't exist before the collapse of the USSR. They had a long-term lease on Sevastopol which was basically in perpetuity to get the port access they wanted.
Since 2014 they've occupied it and it would appear no one was willing or able to take it back, so before this conflict kicked off they had it anyway, so not really sure where you want to go beyond this, they already had Crimea even if unofficially.
I still maintain Russia could have officially gained Crimea diplomatically if they went to the negotiating table before invading and used it as a bargaining chip, instead they got greedy and wanted more.
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Weird the west doesn’t take the same approach to Israel, regarding genociding the locals and supplanting them with European Jews along with similar claims of the land being historically jewish.
Yeah but Israel buys US weapons, so Lockheed Martin and Raytheon benefit. It basically boils down to what benefits the US military industrial complex, bizarrely the left in 2023 loves this
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Apologies I keep forgetting US sent in the invasion forces so they could bolster their defence industrial complex.
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You also appear to have forgotten that it's only the US too. No other countries are involved in supplying Ukraine at all, it's just the US.
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Ah yes, that as well.
Also that it's only the US that can end the war, given they started it of course, mustn't forget that.
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