You can say it as many times as you like it doesn't really stop it being wrong. We get it, Ukrainians = cave men, Russia = stronk >.>
As it says in your quote the comparison assumes that Russia would send half the tanks in their country to invade Ukraine (an unlikely scenario that skews the comparison in Russia's favour) this would mean their committed tanks would be roughly equal in number to Ukraines, however Ukraine's tanks on average would be higher quality (I.E mostly T-64 vs mostly T-72).
Nope.
Don't let the model numbers confuse you, the T-72 was specifically designed as a less capable budget alternative to the T-64, it was designed that way so the USSR could have a tank to export without giving away their top dog. And so that Russia could make tanks too instead of Ukraine making all the USSR's tanks.
Yes they have roughly twice as many, which means if they send half the numbers are even (again these numbers favour Russia and are only for a simple comparison, in reality they would likely be outnumbered).
Because there has been a ceasefire arranged since 2014 that prevents either side from advancing.
Per Wikipedia: "285 T-90/T-90A and 85 T-90M in active service. 200 T-90 in storage. By 2027, 400 T-90M are expected."
285 + 85 = 370 (Tanks in storage and planned future tanks don't count).
Because tanks rusting in storage don't count as active service. Especially considering the entire reason they mothballed/cannibalised 90% of their T-80 in the first place was because it's a Ukrainian tank and they didn't have the parts/expertise to maintain them.
1) Provide Proof that Ukranian BUK has been upgraded to comparable as BUKM3. Like You said, Russians struggle to maintain Ukranian tech and yet somehow Ukraine in past couple years after way less budget has not only managed to maintain but upgrade Russian SAMS to a same level as most modern Russian SAM system upgrade. All while begging for Patriots because they are saying they can not even keep their s-300 and Buks active due to lack of parts.
You literally quoted an article about Russian made BUKM3 released in 2013 and said look it can intercept missiles. So Ukranian one can too!
2) The T-72 Russia fields is heavily modified. As of 2021, 850 T-72B3, 550 T-72B3M, and 650 T-72B/T-72BA are in operation.
These are not your original T-72. The Ukranian upgrades of T-64 to Bulat are minimal. Moreover if you trust Rroff he said Russians pulled thousands upgraded T-80 out of storage so that alone would outpace ratio almost 1 to 2.
The T-64 Bulat of which there is no meaningful numbers competes with Russian T-72B3 - Bulat does have advantage but its not huge and the lack of numbers really cut that advantage to nothing. There is only about 100 of T-64 Bulats available.
I’m not a tank expert but even I know its hilariously stupid to compare original tanks from 40-50 years ago and assume they are the same.
If you actually look into upgraded numbers, the T-72 outperforms overall in both quantity and quality of T-64 that Ukraine fields in whole fleet.
3) Your whole Point about Russians only having 10% of T-80 is just wrong. Again look at Rroff quoted article. They are upgrading and bringing around 2-3K of them back since 2016.
4) Ceasefire? Look at Ukranian performance prior to Ceasefire. It was signed because Ukranians ended up in multiple encirclements. In early days they even had air support from Helicopters. The wonder tank T-64 in thousands could not even take out Donbass. Again, without any air support from Russia.
Humiliating Minsk was signed cause Ukrainians suffered insane losses in Donbass.
Lastly, I can’t believe we are even discussing this whole tank saga as even important. Ukranians have lost over 400 tanks in Donbass. That is without any active air support. Barely any of those were lost due to tank on tank fighting.
Yet here we are, pitting tanks against tanks for some reason.
The tanks in this all out warfare are literally cannon fodder and non vital.
If I was Ukranian and getting ready for an all out war with Russia, I'd be trading 5 T-64's for 1 Javelin. Those tanks and other tanks everywhere else in world are that useless in modern warfare with a country that has air support capability.
I'm pretty sure a Javelin fielding group can destroy more tanks than T-64 could ever dream in a war against Russia.
