Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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LOAM said:
You can't hide troop movement, that whole region is monitored to hell. Besides they've only moved one bloke to Belarus and if they move his abandoned 25k troops it would be known about in seconds. If the wanted Wagner in Belarus, they would have just moved them there.

People are trying to read some elaborate plot into this when the most likely reason it happened is because a significant portion of the people running the show are incompetent idiots.
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Absolutely this. The idea this is some elaborate 4D chess move is utterly illogical. It’s even more of a head scratcher to think they did this to sneak troops about. They could have moved those troops at any time folks.

Putin looks weak
Prigozhin looks weak
Russia has been exposed as weak and divided

If their objective is to make them look weak, then objective accomplished.
 
robfosters said:
Sickens me the way the Russian public cheer and applause for Wagner as if they’re some kind of national heroes.

Do they not have any idea of the heinous atrocities they regularly inflict upon innocent Ukrainians?
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It’s like watching people vote Tory again and again. Sometimes you just have to accept some people are beyond redemption.
 
robfosters said:
Sickens me the way the Russian public cheer and applause for Wagner as if they’re some kind of national heroes.

Do they not have any idea of the heinous atrocities they regularly inflict upon innocent Ukrainians?
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I think they don't care, mostly, but there's probably also a side order of not being all that aware of what is going on in Ukraine. It's not like Russian TV is covering their atrocities.
 
robfosters said:
Sickens me the way the Russian public cheer and applause for Wagner as if they’re some kind of national heroes.

Do they not have any idea of the heinous atrocities they regularly inflict upon innocent Ukrainians?
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The majority of Russians are just as bad and the minority have been crushed. Decades of honing their population this way.
 
wordy said:
Surely it’s not some false flag. They’ve lost 7 (very close to losing more) extremely valuable aircraft to Wagner today, including specialist EW helos, attack helos and transport aircraft, not to mention their crews.
The aircrew won’tve been some drunken Siberian yokels armed with sticks, they will have been mainly officers with the ability and training to crew complex aircraft.

Seems more likely Prigozhin has been on a three week bender, was more drunk than normal last night, thought ‘I’m the gaffer now‘ and things escalated from there. By late afternoon the hangover had kicked in properly and he thought ‘Ive dropped a right bollock here’ and is now trying find a house in Belarus without any windows.
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Probably looking for a bungalow.
 
I dont understand why mr Pringle didnt take his 25,000 men to Belarus as well? I mean ok he probably saw taking Moscow was a too big of a task especially as he probably didn't get the support he was looking for but this has now totally exposed him.
 
Is there any clarity on what is going to happen to Wagner? Is it getting disbanded? Is someone else taking over? Are the soldiers being moved to conventional units?
 
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