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Rroff said:
IIRC Wallace said he wasn't interested in the role.

EDIT: Oh I see in the news today they are saying he earlier showed interest in the role - I'm sure he said awhile back he wasn't.
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Yeah, he said that after it was clear he wasn't getting it. It's like me saying I'm not interested in a relationship with Heidi Klum, it wasn't on the table.

Biden has a weird anti-UK sentiment because he thinks he's Irish.
 
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bingham67 said:
Anyone seen the latest T90M go boom on Ukraine Weapon tracker rather brutal

But as described its seems these tanks are pretty much coffins on tracks compared to west counterparts with low survival rate.
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I haven't seen that one but I do wonder just how good those T90M's are especially the ones that have recently left the factory knowing they don't have access to the specialist parts.
 
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Biden needs to make it clear to Putin and the Russian's if anything happens to the ZNP they will be held reasonable and the consequences will be the equivalent of them using a nuclear warhead. I can't see how else stop Russia from doing something stupid like they did with Nova Kakhovka dam.
 
It's wild to see how many logistical and ammo dumps are being hit in occupied territory. Not only that, but on how many fronts they are doing it. AFU really isn't giving much of a clue as to where they will strike IMO for any 'big' offensive push. They are ruining all areas for the Russians.
 
Scougar said:
It's wild to see how many logistical and ammo dumps are being hit in occupied territory. Not only that, but on how many fronts they are doing it. AFU really isn't giving much of a clue as to where they will strike IMO for any 'big' offensive push. They are ruining all areas for the Russians.
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It looks that's the plan for the counter offensive is to push, pull, prod and stretch the Russians out along as many directions as possible until they break or can no longer reinforce. I'm guessing that takes longer to make significant gains but has long term benefits for the Ukrainians provided we can maintain supplies of equipment and munitions.
 
It makes no sense that Russia would blow up a nuclear plant - they learnt enough from Chernobyl to know that any fallout will likely hit Russia before anywhere else.
 
Rroff said:
Interestingly the US seems to be using F-35s on the edge of NATO air space to provide a lot of data, especially for tracking missiles, suggesting their avionic capabilities are significantly more advanced even than what is publicly known.
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This is double interesting as the F-35's party piece is it's ability to communicate with and share data with other units on the battlefield, something the Soviets pioneered back in the day. If they US are experimenting with, or have found a way to bodge together some type of interlink to allow the F-35 (or other western units capable of sharing such data) to pass on radar/etc info to Ukraine's units that could be a game changer. Having said that it would be incredibly difficult to get two such systems that were never intended to communicate to do so.
 
ubersonic said:
This is double interesting as the F-35's party piece is it's ability to communicate with and share data with other units on the battlefield, something the Soviets pioneered back in the day. If they US are experimenting with, or have found a way to bodge together some type of interlink to allow the F-35 (or other western units capable of sharing such data) to pass on radar/etc info to Ukraine's units that could be a game changer. Having said that it would be incredibly difficult to get two such systems that were never intended to communicate to do so.
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Link 16 has been doing this for 40 years now
 
ubersonic said:
This is double interesting as the F-35's party piece is it's ability to communicate with and share data with other units on the battlefield, something the Soviets pioneered back in the day. If they US are experimenting with, or have found a way to bodge together some type of interlink to allow the F-35 (or other western units capable of sharing such data) to pass on radar/etc info to Ukraine's units that could be a game changer. Having said that it would be incredibly difficult to get two such systems that were never intended to communicate to do so.
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I dunno the truth of it but I've seen talk that they are detecting, tracking and sharing data on ballistic missiles at ranges in excess of 400km (that would be over the horizon below ~42K feet - obviously depends on height of the missile as well). And might be how Ukraine is able to shoot down the hypersonics despite the talk otherwise. Although the F-35 wouldn't be unique in that capability - but that is usually handled by stuff like the E-3 Sentry, Cobra Ball, etc.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
I haven't seen that one but I do wonder just how good those T90M's are especially the ones that have recently left the factory knowing they don't have access to the specialist parts.
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It's very hard to gauge the effectiveness of the T-90M due to a number of factors. But it's very safe to say they're much better than Russia make them look.

Firstly, the T-90M itself is an upgraded version of the T-90A, which was itself a slightly upgraded version of the export spec T-90S, which was itself basically a downgraded cost saving version of the T-90, which was itself an upgraded T-72B with the fire control system from the T-80U added and a name change to make it more appealing to export markets. As you can guess from reading that it's a mess to try and gauge how the T-90M should perform, I.E it uses an improved version of the welded turret designed for the T-90S, but that was a budget alternative to the cast T-90 turret and so logic should dictate the T-90M turret is worse than the T-90 turret from 1993 but who the hell knows.

Then you've got the fact that as the T-90 line began as a T-72 with T-80 bits added (designed so the USSR could stop T-64/T-72/T-80 development/production and focus on one tank) it also began as a worse T-80. But then you have to factor in that Ukraine continued T-64/80 development/production, and Russia continued T-80 development/production all of which should have resulted in tanks better than the T-90, but there's no way to really test any of this as nobody has ever bothered (comically not even Russia).

The general consensus is that the latest T-90 with all available upgrades should be better than the latest T-72 with all available upgrades, most likely better than a T-64 with all available upgrades, equal or possibly better than the latest T-80 with all available upgrades, and inferior to the T-84 (Ukraine's evolution of the T-80, which is believed to be better than the T-90 purely because the starting tank was better so the upgraded version should also be). Of course that only compares the latest tanks of each line with full upgrades against each other, and we all know there's a hell of a lot of old, partially upgraded and simply trash tanks operating on this battlefield.

Secondly, the other problem with gauging the capabilities of the T-90M is that they are being operated by incompetents, against enemies who are not, and who are armed with western ATGM's specifically designed to kill T-x series tanks. When you look at the Ukrainian forces, they're having significantly more success with their T-x series tanks than Russia are, in fact Ukraine have more T-90 than they do Challengers and theirs don't seem to be having half the explode incidents that Russia's are so I feel it's safe to say that the T-90M is a much more capable tank than Russia are making it look, it just need to be deployed/utilised properly.
 
bingham67 said:
Anyone seen the latest T90M go boom on Ukraine Weapon tracker rather brutal

But as described its seems these tanks are pretty much coffins on tracks compared to west counterparts with low survival rate.
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Brutal and looks like only the commander got out and he likely regrets it due terrible burns. Surrounding the crew with propellant charges has to be the worst idea ever!
 
A lot depends really on whether they are kitted out properly and operated competently regardless of which model - though the T-72B3s seem to be, when properly kitted out and properly operated, the most effective tank despite quite a lot of losses. None of them survive well against mines or artillery though.
 
Some depressing news regarding Russia's previous production issues :(

Months ago, I wrote about the three biggest Russian factories idling their production due to a shortage of electronics. (LINK)

Now, the situation is just the opposite. The three biggest Russian factories, Uralvagonzavod, Omsktransmash and Kurganmashzavod, are producing intensely, and that's not all. Uraltransmash and the Armored Repair Plants, consisting of eight units, are working at least 12 hours a day, but not yet in "war mode." For example, Kurganmashzavod had around 1,700 workers but hired another 1,000 last year and another 1,200 recently. During the last few months, the Russian industry has delivered dozens of helicopters and jets to African countries like Mali, Uganda, Togo, and Zimbabwe. This suggests that any shortage of electronics is in the past.

Recently, Uralvagonzavod set 100% of its production exclusively for tanks, while Omsktransmash isn't producing tanks anymore and has instead shifted its focus to the Tos-1 and the modernization of T80s and T62Ms, as well as some artillery, including the D30, 2s4, and 2s5. Kurganmashzavod is working intensely on IFVs like the BMP3M, and at least five repair armored plants are refurbishing other IFVs and APCs. Uraltransmash is producing Akatsiya, Malka, and Msta S artillery and has already delivered two batches of Msta S this year.

The number of missiles launched against Kiev is another example of the kick in production for the Russian aerospace industry. All evidence suggests that the Russian military complex can produce/refurbish many hundreds of tanks and probably thousands of IFVs, APCs, and artilleries annually. We must consider 14 units producing (not including the units working in indirect production like the "techzavods"). The war is on the way where the US will hold the front, or the allies have to start negotiating with Russia.

If Russia keeps up this rate, it will easily overcome the EU donations for Ukraine and seriously threaten the EU's capacity to keep supplying Ukraine. This situation just exposes an old criticism, where the allies didn't invest in facilities for Ukrainian companies to keep producing, refurbishing and repairing outside the country. Ukraine had an excellent military complex that suffered the war's consequences and didn't receive any restructuring program funds from the allies.
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ubersonic said:
Some depressing news regarding Russia's previous production issues :(
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I'm not surprised, though they've been slow in doing it, the signs pointed to them at least doubling the production of missiles and recent news suggests they are getting around sanctions for some microprocessors, etc. thanks to China and so on.
 
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