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*NATO’s Stoltenberg Says Turkey’s Erdogan Has Agreed to Forward to Parliament Sweden NATO Membership Bid
*NATO’s Stoltenberg Says Completing Swedish Membership Bid is “Historical Step”
*NATO’s Stoltenberg Says It’s a Clear Commitment, Turkey’s Erdogan Has Said It Will Happen as Soon as Possible
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He's back!
 
Sweden was de facto in NATO anyway since the US and UK guaranteed their defence and they can basically operate as a NATO member in terms of military cooperation, why agree to anything Erdogan wants?
 
Malevolence said:
Unless they get rid of the S-400 systems that is never going to happen.
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That won't make any difference, the fact they had S-400 wasn't what enraged Trump, it was the fact they bought the S-400s instead of more expensive patriots because he refused to let them have a discount and the whole blown deal made him look like a bad businessman.

Russia wasn't concerned militarily about selling S-400s to a NATO member because they know that NATO already know everything about the S-400, hell they probably have a copy of the service manual.

And likewise the USA wasn't concerned militarily about selling F-35s to a country with S-400s because they knew they would be manned by Turks and connected to the Turkish SAM network (it's not like they phone home to Moscow to have their radar data processed) plus any data the S-400s could get on the F-35 (and F-22) has already been acquired by S-400s and S-500s in Syria/et-al.

It was always about little Donald's ego.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:

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I’m beginning to think that trying reverse NATO enlargement by making NATO very popular was not a good idea.
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It was a disgraceful act but, he should have stopped with Crimea as Russia literally got away with murder while halting any chance of Ukraine joining NATO. In continuing this war, Putin has shot himself in both feet and seems prepared to do the same to his people.
 
Grim5 said:
Doesn't look like it's this, Turkey is trying to use this as a bargaining chip to get EU membership
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Not membership per say, just the removal of their current EU blacklisting so they can begin moving towards the ascension process.

This should be a red line IMO, tell Erdogan where to shove it. Allowing one dictator to annex part of a country in order to get his help standing against another dictator who's currently annexing part of a country is not a solution.
 
ubersonic said:
Not membership per say, just the removal of their current EU blacklisting so they can begin moving towards the ascension process.

This should be a red line IMO, tell Erdogan where to shove it. Allowing one dictator to annex part of a country in order to get his help standing against another dictator who's currently annexing part of a country is not a solution.
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Perhaps the prospective NATO chief, von der Leyen, is putting Turkiye on a slow track to EU membership. Like in the year 2525 if man is still alive.
 
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