Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Just because he has a differing opinion to you doesn't make him an "idiot". The situation in Ukraine is very complicated and has been going on for over 10 plus years prior to the invasion. The US had a lot of involvement in the Maidan revolution and provoked matters.

What professor West says here mirrors what professor Mearsheimer has been saying for years

There are some people though who I can increasingly only see as NPCs - they appear to not be in any way beholden to Russia yet trot out an opinion that there is no way if they thought through what they were saying they couldn't see it was wrong and untrue.

In that video for instance despite some noble aspects to what he was saying, not balancing that with the real world situation and the consequences of trying to indiscriminately implement those ideals is completely unhinged. Seeing China, etc. as precious human beings doesn't change the threat those nations, or at least the regimes governing those nations, may represent to a stable world in the future or mean that we can entirely influence away from that by our actions, even if there is more we can do from our side, as we've seen time and time throughout history even appeasement and appearing weak through concessions, etc. only tends to encourage the likes of the people who are leading these countries, regardless of whether there is some responsibility due on our side, or even some provocation from our side, or not.

EDIT: As Colonel_Klinck put it above he is living in a fantasy world where the likes of Putin, etc. just accept compromises in the name of some greater cause, probably because they are convinced there is some noble reasons behind their action rather than seeing the likes of Putin for what they really are.
 
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I am more than happy to gather up all those who believe we can negotiate with Russia in good faith and send them there to do the negotiations.
We can use their assets as collateral.

If you negotiate a peace plan wit Putin and it holds well done, we all applaud.
If it fails we confiscate your assets to give to Ukraine and send you to Russia.

I bet the likes of Musk & Trump would sing a different tune then.
 
Just because he has a differing opinion to you doesn't make him an "idiot". The situation in Ukraine is very complicated and has been going on for over 10 plus years prior to the invasion. The US had a lot of involvement in the Maidan revolution and provoked matters.

What professor West says here mirrors what professor Mearsheimer has been saying for years

No... he's an idiot.

It's not complicated.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Simples.
 
There are some people though who I can increasingly only see as NPCs - they appear to not be in any way beholden to Russia yet trot out an opinion that there is no way if they thought through what they were saying they couldn't see it was wrong and untrue.

In that video for instance despite some noble aspects to what he was saying, not balancing that with the real world situation and the consequences of trying to indiscriminately implement those ideals is completely unhinged. Seeing China, etc. as precious human beings doesn't change the threat those nations, or at least the regimes governing those nations, may represent to a stable world in the future or mean that we can entirely influence away from that by our actions, even if there is more we can do from our side, as we've seen time and time throughout history even appeasement and appearing weak through concessions, etc. only tends to encourage the likes of the people who are leading these countries, regardless of whether there is some responsibility due on our side, or even some provocation from our side, or not.

EDIT: As Colonel_Klinck put it above he is living in a fantasy world where the likes of Putin, etc. just accept compromises in the name of some greater cause, probably because they are convinced there is some noble reasons behind their action rather than seeing the likes of Putin for what they really are.

Some people hold a position with such conviction that the weight of that opinion causes gravitational force to bend reality around it.

People will construct their own reality and wave off inconvenient facts. Even when confronted with facts, they will often continue to argue that they believe.

It's pretty common in a range of areas.
 
The Russian car industry continues to be slow as the monthly numbers of cars purchased continues to be at 20% to 25% of the pre war level

Also, pre war, European brands made up a large proportion of new car sales but these days 50 to 60% of all new cars sold are Ladas and the majority of the rest is Chinese brands like Geely

 
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13x MIM-23 Hawk anti-air systems on way to Ukraine from Taiwan after refurbishment. Bit on the older side but better than nothing.
Still useful. There is no point wasting the latest patriots, for example, on cheap drones. Use older, cheaper, air defence for that and save the more capable systems for defending against trickier targets.
 
Interesting summary
How many red lines crossed?

US announcing or revealing new military equipment for Ukraine every 1 to 2 months since the start of the war, February 2022 to July 2023
February 2022- Stinger MANPADS
March 2022- Switchblade 300
April 2022- M777, Phoenix Ghost
May 2022- Harpoon Anti-Ship
June 2022- HIMARS
July 2023- HARM AGM-88 (think they meant July 22)
August 2022- NASAMS
November 2022- Avenger, M1117
December 2022- Patriot System
January 2023- Bradley, Abrams
February 2023- GLSDB
March 2023- JDAM in service
May 2023- Support for F-16s
June 2023- AIM-7
July 2023- Cluster Munitions
August 2023- ?????
 
Interesting summary
How many red lines crossed?

US announcing or revealing new military equipment for Ukraine every 1 to 2 months since the start of the war, February 2022 to July 2023
February 2022- Stinger MANPADS
March 2022- Switchblade 300
April 2022- M777, Phoenix Ghost
May 2022- Harpoon Anti-Ship
June 2022- HIMARS
July 2023- HARM AGM-88 (think they meant July 22)
August 2022- NASAMS
November 2022- Avenger, M1117
December 2022- Patriot System
January 2023- Bradley, Abrams
February 2023- GLSDB
March 2023- JDAM in service
May 2023- Support for F-16s
June 2023- AIM-7
July 2023- Cluster Munitions
August 2023- ?????

Didn’t you hear? The Russians destroy every weapon system entering Ukraine.
 
Using drone with grenade to clear mines.

Makes you think drones could increase the clearing speed and decrease risk many times over.
Many mines are buried or in grass/overgrowth, drobes won't be effective at clearing them.

There are several videos of mines being cleared by drones when either left piled up before use or left exposed on roads but I expect the vast majority aren't able to cleared by drones.
 
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Many mines are buried or in grass/overgrowth, drobes won't be effective at clearing them.

There are several videos of mines being cleared by drones when either left piled up before use or left exposed on roads but I expect the vast majority aren't able to cleared by drones.

Yes and also drone pics of thermals showing mines in long grass etc

I can't see why they wouldn't be effective.
 
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