Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Russia told the UN it is investigating whether Britain carried out the Bucha massacre

In other news: it's emerged that Joe Biden ordered the sinking of the Titanic because Trump was onboard, Bill Gates has been found to be controlled by Aliens and the Spear of Jesus is being used to create clones so everyone can get a free wish/miracle

 
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There's a video of a BMP reversing onto (Apparently) one of Russia's own mines, and then cooking off a second later (Maybe the fuel tanks which are on the back). The guy that was on the top turret is seen on fire and then trying to get out, and falling straight into the completely on fire passenger compartment. Brutal. Looks like the driver got out, checked his buddy, but then got away safely. War is hell. (I mention it, as this was the extended video. It the early one you never saw a guy surviving)

I'm wondering what BMP it is as the turret looked odd.
 
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Scougar said:
I'm wondering what BMP it is as the turret looked odd.
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There have been some odd mashups out there - both sides have increasingly done stuff like BMP-1 turrets with some modifications on T-55, T-62 and T-72 hulls to make a DIY BMP-T for anti-infantry work, etc. seen some weird and wonderful variants of the BTR-80 as well with naval turrets on (smaller ones not the massive tall ones seen on some MT-LBs).
 
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Malevolence said:
Ooof, that's going to take some work.

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Looks like a scalextrix track thats been stood on
 
NickK said:
Agreed.. so if one country has a problem that needs solving.. Russia decides that it's going to invade and annex to solve. I think Pallys and Roar78 need to understand that Russia invaded a recognised independent state.
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But how do you change the opinion of a moron and a contrarian? Facts just don't seem to work.
 
Goksly said:
Isn't it reopen already for single file traffic? Would need some serious danger money to cross that bridge me.
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They're letting some cars cross now on one of the lanes. This lane has a big gap between the two sections and is shifted to the side and down (one section is about half a meter lower than the other) - they've put a temporary metal ramp there between the two sections and the cars drive slowly over the ramp lmao. Obviously it's Russia and civilian safety doesn't matter
 
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Grim5 said:
They're letting some cars cross now on one of the lanes. This lane has a big gap between the two sections and is shifted to the side - they've put a temporary metal ramp there and the cars drive over the ramp lmao. Obviously it's Russia and civilian safety doesn't matter
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They can then claim the bridge "has reopened to civilian traffic", which would play well to their home audience.
 
Concrete said:
Some good news for the Ukrainian fans here, did a bit of math:
18km retaken from the Russians in the last week.
Russia currently occupies 161000km of Ukraine.
So doing a bit of maths, the Russians will have been kicked out in just under 160 years time!
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I think you need to go and check your sources :) (hint, your numbers are wrong).

[Edit] I'll even start for you:

after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory was occupied. By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian occupation, leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine's territory
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I found this quote from the Colonel of the Ukrainian 57th Bridge fighting around Bakhmut interesting and a bit of an eye opener and runs against the conventions of what we've told previously about what happens when you attack:

www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine war: No fast results in offensive, warns Ukraine's General Syrskyi

Gen Syrskyi, overseeing the renewed push in the east, says quick success is practically impossible.
www.bbc.co.uk

Col Bakulin says. Contrary to conventional military wisdom, he also says his casualties in the offensive are fewer than when his unit was static, defending the city.
Moving forward, albeit slowly, he says has also boosted morale so "the losses are easier to bear".
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I suppose it makes sense to not stand still and take shells to face given both sides rely heavily on artillery to breakthrough lines.
 
Freddie1980 said:
I found this quote from the Colonel of the Ukrainian 57th Bridge fighting around Bakhmut interesting and a bit of an eye opener and runs against the conventions of what we've told previously about what happens when you attack:

www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine war: No fast results in offensive, warns Ukraine's General Syrskyi

Gen Syrskyi, overseeing the renewed push in the east, says quick success is practically impossible.
www.bbc.co.uk



I suppose it makes sense to not stand still and take shells to face given both sides rely heavily on artillery to breakthrough lines.
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"If we put in a bit of effort, Bakhmut could be encircled," Col Bakulin says. Contrary to conventional military wisdom, he also says his casualties in the offensive are fewer than when his unit was static, defending the city.

Moving forward, albeit slowly, he says has also boosted morale so "the losses are easier to bear".

For the first time on the eastern front, the numbers of Ukrainian forces now match those of Russian troops - about 160,000. However, Ukraine is still outgunned by Russian artillery.
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So people were crowing about 9:1 KD/R on the other side and now it's magically the other way around? I mean I get a bit of propaganda is needed but cmon...

Also interesting that he highlighted the morally bankrupt nature of cluster munitions. I'm sure the armchair generals here will say he's an idiot...(I'm pretty sure I read recently that the munitions were given on the condition they were not to be used in urban environments because of future collateral damage? Goalposts shifted again I guess..

Could the dynamics change with the arrival of US-supplied cluster munitions, which contain dozens of small bombs that can be sprayed out over a wider area? More than a hundred countries have banned them.

Col Bakulin says they're needed to "inflict maximum damage on enemy infantry". "The more infantry who die here, the more their relatives back in Russia will ask their government 'why?'"

But, he adds: "I can't say that cluster bombs will solve all our problems on the battlefield."

He also acknowledges they're a controversial weapon: "If the Russians didn't use them, perhaps conscience would not allow us to do it too."
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Excellent morality....we know they are wrong, but if the (clearly morally bankrupt by all their actions to date) Russians have used them, then hey ho it's fine.
 
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