Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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14,000 people died in Eastern Ukraine between 2014 and 2022, including thousands of Russian speaking civilians, killed by both the Ukrainian armed forces and Russian backed separatists. What propaganda do you think I've swallowed because this is simply easily verifiable facts reported in places such as The Guardian.


I don't consider this to be legitimate grounds to illegally invade Ukraine, I'm simply stating this occurred and Russia gave it as a stated reason.

Only last week we found out that a lot of the so called victims in Eastern Ukraine were actually Russian actors in the pay of Prigozhin's media companies. Just like the so called "separatists" were pretty much all Russians military and Wagner forces with just a handful of Ukrainians acting as a front but under the pay and control of Russia.
 
This one is going to be down to Turkey. Let's see if their resolve stands.
I get the feeling Erdogan wont like having his bluff called by a fellow strongman dictator. If Turkey fails to intervene it makes them look incredibly weak. Unless of course he can spin some kind of narrative I'd say Turkey has no choice but to get involved.
 
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