Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Also poo t in tells that PMC are not legal in rashka, but many were contracted by them lol
What is more, in his "pramaya liniya" (direct line) drivel he remembered that his close friend died... Yes, he did not forget the bald Zhorik who made a circus of his PMC.
 
Rroff said:
In a surprise to no one who has been following along:

www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine war: Shell shortages force us to limit firing, Ukrainian troops tell BBC

The BBC visits a front line where ammunition is low and hears troops' fears of wavering Western support.
www.bbc.co.uk

I dunno why spinning up/building ammo production facilities and getting supply going and in an expedited manner is such a big deal unless we actually want Ukraine to fail.
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Shell production in europe for the most part is done by private companies. Not like in the US where its significantly government owned. They will be contracted to produce a certain amount each year, with no doubt some clause to have some surge production which is likely what has been fueling current supply levels at current rate. These companies will not invest in infrastructure to increase production levels unless renewed contracts are put in place to create shells at increased levels for a significant length of time where it makes sense from a financial point of view. What you are seeing is complete lack of investment by these companies to improve production lines because they dont see the increased rate being worth the investment as there is no guarantee a significantly increased production rate will be sustained.
 
Rroff said:
I dunno why spinning up/building ammo production facilities and getting supply going and in an expedited manner is such a big deal unless we actually want Ukraine to fail.
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I would guess that buying land, making buildings, buying & fitting new machinery, hiring & training people to run the new production lines etc all takes time and costs a lot of money out of your own pocket "before" you even start to make money. The US alone thinks it'll take over 2 years to increase from making 14k 155mm shells a month at the end of 2022, to its new target of 100k shells a month sometime in 2025.

Then there's the more long term look, Ukraine and oddly Israel (I thought had more stocks) won't need these vast sums of shells forever, so any new production lines that get created to solve a short-term supply issue, may (or may not) end up being left unused in a decade once Peace eventually returns, costing the manufacturers heavily to maintain, which may led to some low-balling where they avoid expanding as much as some would like based on a perceived risk of future downturns and excess supply.

Or WW3 could finally kick off in which case "Yay Profit!" followed by a really bad day for anyone not wearing factor 6 million sunblock.
 
Weirdly the almighty rashka is low on eggs. Even poo t in mentioned this in his "pramaya liniya" drivel. The reason behind given was that people have become richer and buy the by a shed load. Same was in ussr. Lots of cash worth **** all.
Also, any documents issued in Donetsk republic are not even recognized in rashka. The poo t in suggested to get one issued in rashka. It translates that even rashka has not legalized the Donetsk republic. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
 
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ianh said:
I would guess that buying land, making buildings, buying & fitting new machinery, hiring & training people to run the new production lines etc all takes time and costs a lot of money out of your own pocket "before" you even start to make money. The US alone thinks it'll take over 2 years to increase from making 14k 155mm shells a month at the end of 2022, to its new target of 100k shells a month sometime in 2025.

Then there's the more long term look, Ukraine and oddly Israel (I thought had more stocks) won't need these vast sums of shells forever, so any new production lines that get created to solve a short-term supply issue, may (or may not) end up being left unused in a decade once Peace eventually returns, costing the manufacturers heavily to maintain, which may led to some low-balling where they avoid expanding as much as some would like based on a perceived risk of future downturns and excess supply.

Or WW3 could finally kick off in which case "Yay Profit!" followed by a really bad day for anyone not wearing factor 6 million sunblock.
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Time wise is a peacetime thing - there is no real bottleneck to expediting that process considerably - if we were really under threat taking 2 years would be nonsense, even so if a situation emerged that imminently required millions of shells it isn't something which you can respond to reactively :s

Money wise the costs are going to pale compared to what the situation is going to cost Europe and even the US if Ukraine falls, I do feel like the maths has been done cynically and "they" have decided they'd rather have multiple countries bankrolling it if, probably more likely when, they find they need to substantially up their readiness due to the emerging deteriorating security situation on the edge of Europe rather than it being done out of pocket to help Ukraine :(

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Shell production in europe for the most part is done by private companies. Not like in the US where its significantly government owned. They will be contracted to produce a certain amount each year, with no doubt some clause to have some surge production which is likely what has been fueling current supply levels at current rate. These companies will not invest in infrastructure to increase production levels unless renewed contracts are put in place to create shells at increased levels for a significant length of time where it makes sense from a financial point of view. What you are seeing is complete lack of investment by these companies to improve production lines because they dont see the increased rate being worth the investment as there is no guarantee a significantly increased production rate will be sustained.
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As above we need to move beyond that really, or there is a real risk that it comes back to bite us in the arse in the long term.
 
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Putin does Q&A and they let the public txt in questions and displayed them on big screens

Big mistake

Some good questions from the public include:

* When will your reality match the real reality of Russia?

* When will living in Russia match the way it's presented on state TV?

* How do we win a war when we only defending?

* When will food prices come down? It costs 1500 rubles to make a basic salad now! When will prices stop rising?

* We send gas to China, but when will our houses in Siberia have gas?

* Don't run for president!

* When will our president fix our own country? We live in the abyss with no education or healthcare!


 
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Unfortunately plenty of people out there who think they deserved better in life and the rules don't apply to them. Easy targets for things like this.

Remember when that US air force cadet who leaked stuff on his discord server for clout, in this digital age I don't know how you stop it.
 
Can anyone give me a summary of the last 2 months? I used to check in here daily but haven't for a while now. A youtuber I follow claimed Russia has been making some large gains. True/false/exaggerated? Either it's been looking like a long haul for a long time now.
 
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Can anyone give me a summary of the last 2 months? I used to check in here daily but haven't for a while now. A youtuber I follow claimed Russia has been making some large gains. True/false/exaggerated? Either it's been looking like a long haul for a long time now.
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Russia certainly has been making massive gains...gains in the number of troops and equipment they have lost.

Stalemate with Russia bleeding itself dry again at the moment.
 
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