Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Thats big if true, since they were only getting semi reasonable kill levels on those missiles before.

Wonder if the repeat launches has allowed US and other nations some better data on the Russian missiles which has boosted detection and/or kill routines.
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It also depends on geography- where they are attacking may be better defended.
 
NickK said:
Alternatively target the support infrastructure or crews. Issue is for a 71 year old design there will be a large number if spare parts.. we just need to use the Haynes manual to find the specific part they need for holding the missiles in the bays/pylons.
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The easiest way to stop almost any Air Force in the world yet it's never really thought about by security types. It doesn't matter if you have the most amazing aircraft in the world if the crews who fly/fix the things are dead, and the crews will either be married so live "off base" making it easy to reach them (no security), or live on-base in easily ID'd buildings.
 
ianh said:
The easiest way to stop almost any Air Force in the world yet it's never really thought about by security types. It doesn't matter if you have the most amazing aircraft in the world if the crews who fly/fix the things are dead, and the crews will either be married so live "off base" making it easy to reach them (no security), or live on-base in easily ID'd buildings.
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Also people forget the security risk of retirees - I would suspect that many TU-95M pilots now retired know the fastest unofficial ways of ensuring they aren't serviceable (such as missing parts for navigations systems etc). Those retired salaries probably don't go far..

You can also mess up the repairs of runways (causing relocation) subtly by affecting the tarmac/concrete materials so they fail over winter/summer.

However the insider risk (pilot/crew/ground staff such as mechanics/loaders etc)- is probably most immediate but also the most monitored which leaves direct impact scenarios.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Thats big if true, since they were only getting semi reasonable kill levels on those missiles before.

Wonder if the repeat launches has allowed US and other nations some better data on the Russian missiles which has boosted detection and/or kill routines.
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Well it depends where the target is as some parts of the country simply don't have much anti-ballistic protection if at all.

Plus they may opt to not have it running if they feel a bigger attack is likely.
 
NickK said:
Also people forget the security risk of retirees - I would suspect that many TU-95M pilots now retired know the fastest unofficial ways of ensuring they aren't serviceable (such as missing parts for navigations systems etc). Those retired salaries probably don't go far..
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No need, between 20-30% of the Soviet air force were Ukrainian, more than capable of telling saboteurs exactly how best to disable any Tu-22, Tu-95, Tu-160, etc :D
 
Grim5 said:
The only thing they seem to have would be somehow getting a sabotage team across the border, travel 2000km into Russia and use C4
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Don't think they'd have to sneak in and plant any explosives as the Russians don't seem to hide their bombers in revetments or hangars. They tend to leave them sat on the ramp, so a few small teams could use drones with grenades or simply sit 1km away with a .50 rifle loaded with Mk 211 rounds and cause absolute chaos. There has to be a reason why it hasn't already been attempted though.
 
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