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Would you at least cover all my points including propagation as a result of normalisation of this conflict?
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Would you at least cover all my points including propagation as a result of normalisation of this conflict?
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Ask @Allnamestaken about this.
Interestingly enough I find this thread fascinating for just how well propaganda works on just about everyone. Some of the slavish behaviour on a random PC forum shows how under the skin it really gets for a lot of people even when they had no skin in the matter!
Bring back mcarthyism I say!
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He speaks russian?
Ive done my own ghetto edit and applied it to a previous post.....
Not that anyone gives a ****. Propaganda works both ways. I'm a russian vatnik etc etc.
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That’s Karma right there
Caporegime
Nope. Orthodox Christmas is celebrated on the 7th of January, not the 3rd.
I think that's accurate.
I didn't claim anyone was starving to death.
Yes. They are suffering the consequences of the war Putin started. A war they support, started by a president they support.
(Source).
Thanks, I'm glad we can agree on that.
No, that is not even remotely what I said. If you're going to disagree with me, at least have the decency to be honest when replying.
I have consistently argued against the idea that China should absorb Russia, I have said she should be allowed to continue her colonisation of Africa instead.
I have said Russia should be made worthless to ensure that absorbing her is not an attractive proposal for China. The best way to achieve this is to destroy Russia's resources: her lakes, her forests, and her mines. This would cause economic damage without eliminating essential food supplies or attacking civilians and population centres.
So no, it's not genocidal. If I wanted to be genocidal, I'd say 'Nuke the entire country, hit major population centres first, carpet bomb every other population centre, target civiian infrastructure as a priority, and destroy all sources of food production—starting with fields and livestock—then steal tens of thousands of children and give them to families in another country, just like Russia's been doing with Ukrainian children.'
OK, sweets specifically, not food generally. Seems a pretty big crowd for sweets, and rather odd that it's 90% old people, and a bit strange that everyone is so crazy to get their hands on a few sweets, but it is a warzone as you say, so perhaps they really are that hungry.
'Sweets' rather than 'food' does not make me 'extremely gullible.'
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Caporegime
BTW, I will admit to some anti-Russian bias, as my paternal grandmother was Polish, and I do hold a grudge against the Russians for what they did to Poland during WWII and the Cold War era.
This aside, I believe it's still fair to say that a country which decriminalises domestic violence, turns a blind eye to the violent persecution of minorities, invades its neighbours and carries out genocidal policies against them with the overwhelming support of its citizens, is not a civliised country.
This aside, I believe it's still fair to say that a country which decriminalises domestic violence, turns a blind eye to the violent persecution of minorities, invades its neighbours and carries out genocidal policies against them with the overwhelming support of its citizens, is not a civliised country.
I didn’t think he’d risk a visit to Ukraine. Definitely not Crimea. The chances of being scalped are too high.
Caporegime
Sorry if i interpreted that as anything but mass genocide then .... localised Planetary terraformation
lolAnyway to stop china getting their paws on Russia..
Ill let other members judge whos making stuff up/dishonest whatever you said.
BTW i understand about the polish family connection thats fair enough a reason to have your opinions. Its just good to get others perspectives.
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??? It's dropped from a peak of $115 per barrel 18 months ago all the way down to $73 per barrel.
The prices are pretty good right now.
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Prices have been far too high. Way too much money flowing to the Kremlin.
Russia is off loading its oil to other ships and China and India are happily cracking it.
When you're abusing the context to paint a false narrative yes it is. You could have saved time replying by simply reading all of the post you quoted, I'll copy pasta the most important part for you:
There is a distinct difference between a handful of Russian soldiers captured by Ukraine being shoved, spat on or called names by some angry Ukrainians. And thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and civilian hostages captured by Russia being beaten, starved, raped, sodomised, and subjected to torture and forced amputation/castration (sometimes fatally).
Nobody is saying that Ukraine have not mistreated prisoners, we are simply saying that the scale and severity between what the two sides have done/are doing is not in the same league, it's not even the same game, and the attempts by Putinistas to excuse their teams actions with the "both sides does bad stuff" argument is purile.
Possibly ianh is unaware of this group’s previous and numerous attempts make these arguments. They also possible missed the pages of debunking and the level of ignorance being demonstrated.
The main problem with the thread in recent times is that in the ten years since the thread started the approach to moderation on the forum has changed, and whereas in the past the bots/trolls would be banned or thread banned now the mods just expect/instruct everyone else in the thread to put them on ignore. Which would be fine in a motors thread or even a politics thread but it doesn't work in a thread about something this important because if somebody posts lies/misinformation/mistruths/etc and nobody challenges/corrects it then it stands there uncorrected and is there for anyone to find by searching Google or the forum (or simply browsing the thread), and failure to challenge misinformation has become one of the main ways that misinformation spreads online.
If I recall correctly there was a point in the early 1900s or late 1800s when the economy in Germany got so bad that workers were taking their wages home in wheelbarrows then burning the cash because it was more efficient than using it to buy wood/coal. I'm not saying Russia is getting to that point (yet) but it seems the sanctions are having a decent effect on their economy, just a shame it's the poorest feeling it the most and not the elites
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If I recall correctly there was a point in the early 1900s or late 1800s when the economy in Germany got so bad that workers were taking their wages home in wheelbarrows then burning the cash because it was more efficient than using it to buy wood/coal. I'm not saying Russia is getting to that point (yet) but it seems the sanctions are having a decent effect on their economy, just a shame it's the poorest feeling it the most and not the elites
And that is the issue. The Russian economy is performing too well. The sanctions need to be increased as clearly Russia is negating them. I had hoped the Saudi government would have upped its oil production and tanked global oil prices to wipeout the unscrupulous traders.
Seasoned with a special blend of Testosterone and Panzerschokolade. But yeah, looks like a busy night of posting and probably a lot of spam RTM. I feel sorry for the mid team.
The interesting aspect is the propaganda onslaught is often followed by bad news for Russia. I’m eagerly waiting what that is. Maybe the sanctioned 300 billion is about to be released to Ukraine, or a deal on the US aid is about to be done.
My hopes for this year are Ukraine receiving,
50 billion from the EU
300 billion from ill gotten gains
63 billion from the US
Greater sanctions on Russia and its supporters.
To see Russian oil and Gas industries running at a loss.
Civil unrest in Russia.
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You are delusional jigger.... You think posting on a computer forum by random people actually means something. I'm sat writing this on the toilet right now before going out for pizza with some friends. There is no conspiracy here lol.
P.s I have no problem with American money flowing to Ukraine to pay their pensions and civil servants. Not my money not my concern.
Seem upset again. Can you point on a doll to the nerve my post struck?
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