Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Whilst Chinese EVs are obviously ***** .....

You can see people standing in cover around the corner and a guy filming it. Pretty ready to get his clip
Doesn't seem "suddenly" to me but 100% agree ofc they are garbage.
 
Allnamestaken said:
The Russians are the ones who invaded Ukraine and decimated downs and cities, LOOK AT BUCHA, rape and murder galore.

Why is it you are always in with the BOTH SIDES tripe, or QUICK to defend or deflect anything for Russia. As soon as something paints Russia in a bad light (not that it takes much to do that) BUT BUT BUT BUT UKRAINE.

You cant be THAT CONTRARIAN, it doesn't matter Russia are the aggressors here it doesn't matter how you spin it.
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If BUCHA wasn't barbarity then what is?

Well of course unless it never happened and was just Western propaganda...
 
Efour said:
Jesus did Russia get that close (bucha) to the capital on the west.. was that early days? Seems so long ago.
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They almost had Kyiv in the opening stages of the invasion. it was down to the complete failure of the raid on Hostomel airport and sheer incompetence of the traffic jam of military equipment on the road from the Belarus border. Ukraine slowed them down with surprisingly stout defence and flooding the low ground to the north of Kyiv. Pretty much ground the northern assault to a complete halt and eventually forcing a retreat.
I'm no master strategist, however, I genuinely think if they had managed to hold and reinforce the assault on the Hostomel Airport and established a functioning airhead, they could have possibly been successful in decapitating the Ukrainian Government in the opening weeks and forced a capitulation of Ukrainian forces.
 
steve45 said:
They almost had Kyiv in the opening stages of the invasion. it was down to the complete failure of the raid on Hostomel airport and sheer incompetence of the traffic jam of military equipment on the road from the Belarus border. Ukraine slowed them down with surprisingly stout defence and flooding the low ground to the north of Kyiv. Pretty much ground the northern assault to a complete halt and eventually forcing a retreat.
I'm no master strategist, however, I genuinely think if they had managed to hold and reinforce the assault on the Hostomel Airport and established a functioning airhead, they could have possibly been successful in decapitating the Ukrainian Government in the opening weeks and forced a capitulation of Ukrainian forces.
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Some Villages north of Kyiv had to defend themselves with villagers getting guns and explosives and setting up ambushes. This was because Kyiv did not expect to be attacked from Belarus so almost the entire defensive force was sent to the East, because of this Russia made rapid gains in the North and South but couldn't consolidate

All TV channels in Kyiv were showing instructions to make Molotov cocktails and homemade bombs to ambush the Russians coming for Kyiv

Luckily the the Russians couldn't consolidate as even with Kyiv poorly defended, it was just enough to delay the Russians for reinforcements to arrive and push the Russians out

Recommend watching this video, it shows from the perspective of when the reinforcements arrived to push the Russians from Kyiv

 
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Grim5 said:
Some Villages north of Kyiv had to defend themselves with villagers getting guns and explosives and setting up ambushes. This was because Kyiv did not expect to be attacked from Belarus so almost the entire defensive force was sent to the East, because of this Russia made rapid gains in the North and South but couldn't consolidate

All TV channels in Kyiv were showing instructions to make Molotov cocktails and homemade bombs to ambush the Russians coming for Kyiv

Luckily the the Russians couldn't consolidate as even with Kyiv poorly defended, it was just enough to delay the Russians for reinforcements to arrive and push the Russians out

Recommend watching this video, it shows from the perspective of when the reinforcements arrived to push the Russians from Kyiv

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One of the problems was the regional administrator (forgot his actual job/title) in the south was in Russia's pocket and unlike many who'd either overstated their influence to keep the money coming or turned and fled when things kicked off, actually did undermine Ukraine's preparedness and ability to organise in the south when things kicked off, resulting in having to rush a lot of stuff which was supposed to be defending Kyiv southwards to stabilise the situation.

Within the city itself they were fairly well prepared - just too much ground north of the city to hold it with what they had, also they kept a blocking force to the west of Kyiv (including 2 heavy armour groups) to prevent Russia from being able to cut-off their supply lines to Poland - which also served to complicate the situation for Russia.
 
steve45 said:
I'm no master strategist, however, I genuinely think if they had managed to hold and reinforce the assault on the Hostomel Airport and established a functioning airhead, they could have possibly been successful in decapitating the Ukrainian Government in the opening weeks and forced a capitulation of Ukrainian forces.
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Amazingly the thing that went most wrong for them at the start was **** poor communication and timing, once their ground forces burst through from Belarus they got picked up by all the CCTV in the area and so Ukraine knew it was on and to go to full alert. This meant that although their paratroopers had managed to take/secure the airfield they needed to their reinforcements hadn't taken off yet and so with Ukraine hitting full alert they got blasted out of the sky. This meant that the guys holding the airfield didn't have the numbers, heavy weapons and air defences to hold it and so they got slaughtered.

Losing the numerical equivalent of 60% of the entire SAS was devastating to the Spetznas as unsurprisingly they had assigned the most important tasks to their most experienced and well trained dudes so losing hundreds of them in a few hours basically neutered them.

Some thing interesting in retrospect is that I remember arguing with the Russian trolls in the run up to the invasion and none of them could believe/accept that Ukraine had the level of operational air defences I was telling them they did, they genuinely believed they only had a handful of S-300 and Buks left working and that repairing/upgrading old SAMs and building new ones was simply beyond a Ukrainian, a delusion I now believe extended beyond Russia's troll farms and into their very military.
 
Grim5 said:
Some Villages north of Kyiv had to defend themselves with villagers getting guns and explosives and setting up ambushes. This was because Kyiv did not expect to be attacked from Belarus so almost the entire defensive force was sent to the East, because of this Russia made rapid gains in the North and South but couldn't consolidate
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Yeah this kind of stuff happened in a number of Ukrainian villages in the early days of the war, but the absolute best was the village where the "invasion" went down like so:
  • Russian tanks enter a village. Villagers watch carefully from a distance. Russians transfer fuel from two of them to the other two, get onto those two, and leave the two dry tanks in the village.
  • Villagers plant Ukrainian flags on the 2 dry tanks.
  • The other 2 tanks return, see the 2 dry tanks with Ukrainian flags, and open fire, destroying them both completely. Then they keep driving around looking for their other 2 tanks.
  • One of them drives onto a bridge with a 5 ton weight limit. The bridge collapses, the tank falls into the river below, and everyone inside the tank dies.
  • The other tank keeps driving around, gets lost, and finally gets stuck in a ditch. Russian soldiers then get out of it and walk away.
 
ubersonic said:
and that repairing/upgrading old SAMs and building new ones was simply beyond a Ukrainian, a delusion I now believe extended beyond Russia's troll farms and into their very military.
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Seems to be common thinking within the Russian military and political structures, probably partly due to yes men, partly people seeming believing their own propaganda :s which is ironic given that a huge amount of Soviet weapons development, production and maintenance was of Ukrainian origin.
 
ubersonic said:
Amazingly the thing that went most wrong for them at the start was **** poor communication and timing, once their ground forces burst through from Belarus they got picked up by all the CCTV in the area and so Ukraine knew it was on and to go to full alert. This meant that although their paratroopers had managed to take/secure the airfield they needed to their reinforcements hadn't taken off yet and so with Ukraine hitting full alert they got blasted out of the sky. This meant that the guys holding the airfield didn't have the numbers, heavy weapons and air defences to hold it and so they got slaughtered.
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They didn't need CCTV to know that! They moved most of their Air Force out of the way in advance of the massive bombing/missile attack then came just before the ground invasion.
 
alchal said:
So orban could potentially become the president of the EU.

Couldn't make this up if true.
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There is a 6 month rotating presidency, so yes its true. Every member country gets a turn. The role is more ceremonial than having real power though. Presidency can set the agenda for discussions but decisions are taken by all the member countries and/or the EU parliament.
 
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