Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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I assume he was speaking about providing security to Europe in the context of a missile defense system working against rogue states and terrorists since that's what they were discussing. There is also just a chance Yeltsin was drunk and misspoke, since he was always drunk. People forget that Russia voluntarily pulled it's troops out of East Germany and allowed reunification, which was prior to the collapse of the USSR. To think in 1999 Russia had aspirations to conquer Europe is basically pretty silly, mindlessly reposting fake Ukrainian propaganda seems to just be a theme of this thread though.
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Yeah, security from Zee Germans…
Stellung! Schnell, schnell! der fette, betrunkene Russe ist im schiebstand! Laden sie den strudel in die kanonen, bevor er kalt wird!
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Soldato
You try too hard.
Soldato
Russia voluntarily pulled out did it. My recollection as I wasn't 2 years old at the time was the USSR was slowly collapsing and Russia had far too many worries at home as the writing was on the wall and they knew they couldn't do anything to stop the Berlin Wall coming down. You make it sound like Russia was a good actor in this, they've never been that. In 1939 they were partners with Hitler and if Hitler had stuck to the deal they would have remained partners with the Nazis. The sooner people realise we have nothing in common with Russia the batter. They are no better than radical Islam.
Shaheds with rocket engines starting to appear, they still got shot down though
In other news, more Russian cruise missiles landed in fields hundreds of km from the front line again. Their plans to ramp up missile production has also increased its failure rates
In other news, more Russian cruise missiles landed in fields hundreds of km from the front line again. Their plans to ramp up missile production has also increased its failure rates
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35k but not just deployed to what we think of as Russia, they say they will be deployed through what they consider Russia so they includes the Ukranian occupied territories
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Imagine if the Greeks, Romans and Turks all started invading their neighbours on the basis that they used to be a mighty imperial empire and those lands therefore belong to them. Thats what Russia is doing in 2024
Caporegime
This is the most deranged cope I have seen in years. You are completely misrepresenting what was said. No sane historian or political analyst would entertain this nonsense for half a second. The transcript is clear: it means exactly what it says, as I have explained. The summary by the NSA comfirms this. I defy you to find any serious political scholar who claims otherwise.
Soldato
...and don't forget the Persians. They would all turn up in a field in Macedonia saying that's mine.
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They could but making a plant like tht is an easy target. Easier to make drones as the fabrication can easily be wide spread. Making shells requires heavy machinary.
Putin is attempting to turn the GRU/FSB into Russia’a largest employer.. would take much for that FSB leadership to bunk off putin and his cohorts as they get older and more insecure gis position becomes more unstable. Corruption breeds benefit of self over the country, a natural limit to the size-stability of the state.
I guess it can be harder to stop lone wolfs but I think many inside Russia will be. May be more organised activity in occupied Ukraine. Last week an SU-34m inside Russia was destroyed by fire - after a few days they arrested one 16 year old boy, who they claim jumped a fence into an airfield and set the plane on fire
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Soldato
It appears Ukraine are ramping up production of the Hrim-2 . Saudi Arabia are coming on board as well. Still have a way to to go to catch up with Iran who are fielding MRBM, of which a number of Ghall-110 are said to be exported.
Associate
Putin invading another country. The west start promising help ect. Then over time the interest wanes. The politicians know this is a war we can't win. The money and arms are running out. Putins gamble looks like it's working our for him. We have clearly learned nothing from the 1930s when we watched Hitler rearming yet did nothing. Watch this space
Caporegime
Yep get a Hitler analogy in there. Guaranteed win.
Putin's gamble was to win in a week.
This is Putin's double down, raise raise raise raise raise raise raise with an all in at some point in the future.
He's never going to back down, he dies or Ukraine loses whichever comes first.
Putin's gamble was to win in a week.
This is Putin's double down, raise raise raise raise raise raise raise with an all in at some point in the future.
He's never going to back down, he dies or Ukraine loses whichever comes first.
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Associate
You can't deny he is a clever man. He knew the west would lose their nerve
Well you heard it, straight from the Internet Bureau.
He may be all in. However that means he has to deliver and that requires all of Russia to be on the same page.
I’m not entirely sure if Russia wouldn’t simply nuke one of it’a allies can claim it was NATO. Probably North Korea.
The key is finding the simplest point that delay the plan..
Blink.
I agree that the EU should arm up. There’s only so many tank corpses you can leave in one area before it becomes impossible to pass or clear.
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imo we are seeing the very early stages of ww3. A slow start simply because of the threat of nuclear weapons. If these didn't exist we would now be in all out war
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It is not about losing nerve, but having little appetite, and it is a gamble.
Putin is not certainly not stupid, but is this clever? No, he has limited options, and is effectively railroaded by the circumstances he has found himself in. Had Putin foreseen a multi year campaign of this scale he would have prepared better.
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