Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Try not to shill angry? Honestly I’m not sure how anyone can see the thread that way. It’s almost like you’re desperate to frame the thread somehow.
You may not like the content or direction the topic takes but hated and rage really?
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Putin has a few on his books, that prat ritter and some moron ex colonel McRegor I think it is who are very active spouting russian nonsense on social media.
Putin spread his money on dozens of these guys all over europe.
Something I don't think people really appreciate - Russia has engaged a lot in subversion, etc. in Western countries in recent years. I suspect a good few don't even realise they've been manipulated.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled...
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Haven’t seen McGregor mentioned since Kylew got thread banned. Don’t miss those days much.
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People always think they are above being manipulated but history shows us time and again how wrong they are.
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Going by heavy equipment losses it's 10 to 1 which is the going rate for the last few of months. What I did find a bit gut wrenching was the 4 boats on that list 1 of which was sunk and it doesn't take to much working out to realise where that was and what that ultimately meant for the Ukrainian soldiers who were onboard.
It doesn't seem to be being reported much but even at huge cost Russia has slowly been eeking out terrain gains across the front over the last few days, largely due to Russia seeming to have a bit more artillery ammo coming in (possibly NK supply) at a time where Ukraine is having to conserve what they have:
Russian Artillery Gunners Are Getting Cocky. As Ukraine Runs Out Of Ammo, Russian Guns Gather For Devastating Salvos.
Unworried by the risk of Ukrainian gunners firing back, the Russians are concentrating their biggest guns for salvos targeting Ukrainian positions in front-line cities.
www.forbes.com
If the artillery situation isn't rectified soon potentially we could see a precipitated collapse along the frontline.
They should just pull out if their losses pick up. The Russians have destroyed themselves to try and take this village, losing 14 vehicles/weapons for every 1 vehicles/weapon Ukraine loses
We know the 47th brigade Is now operating Abrams M1 tanks in this village, wonder if they are getting much action yet
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Seen very little of Abrams or Challengers in use in Ukraine, or a fair bit of other kit albeit that is probably much more locked down due to security concerns.
EDIT: Also what I can find on the use of those tanks suggests they are being used more in the direct fire replacement for artillery role
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Your posting history betrays you, but if Ukraine falls that is exactly the direction the world is heading. Russia wants Europe not Ukraine. Useful idiots beware.
Has Putin even ever stated he wants Europe? I've listened to John Mearsheimer on this issue frequently and he's categorically said that isn't the case.
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He's really not. He's limited as to what he can say and express because obvious reasons. The last russian editor got expelled for being too critical/hostile. You should learn to read between the lines."Journalist"
edit: ok so you're talking about Carlson. He is the epitome of the Trump suporter taken to the extreme - the Donald is probably proud of him their view of the world is so skewed into the realm of utter fantasy that he probably thinks he's helping.
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What Putin has said is "Russia has no borders, Russia's borders do not end anywhere"
Is this a video of him saying that or something?
Nah, it's just some bizarre thing that's been made up to promote support for Ukraine. During the Cold War at the height of the USSR, they would've actually been capable of capturing Western Europe minus the UK, right now their forces are bogged down in Ukraine fighting World War 1 style - yet we're supposed to believe they're a threat to the most powerful military alliance ever conceived. NATO spends 1.3 trillion on defence combined and our militaries total strength is 3.3million professional soldiers, this compared to Russia spending $86bn and their army sits at around 1.3 million during the largest conflict they've been involved in since World War 2. We Dwarf Russia and would be fighting a defensive war where we're basically superior in every category except tactical nuclear weapons. This talk of a World War is complete horse manure.
He has never that I've seen directly stated he wants Europe. He has a number of times talked about regaining the original extents of the USSR and Russia has over recent years put a lot of efforts into laying the groundwork for that. He certainly wouldn't pass over the chance to take Europe if it was a realistic proposition for him though, just couldn't help himself.
His main motivation though for the invasion of Ukraine seem to allude many commentators - Ukraine moving further Westward and improving its standard of living and social freedoms, etc. is one of the few threats to his position - with the links between the countries with so many people having family, etc. both sides of the border it can't be swept aside by propaganda the way other aspects are.
Not all military spending is equal neither is the way militaries are used, if Russia was to double-down on rearming the West would likely be slow and inefficient to respond creating a real risk there - we don't have the depth of reserves and stockpiles to fight out a longer war and a lot of the high end stuff would likely be expended in the opening stages of any conflict without necessarily forcing a decisive situation. While a World War is incredibly unlikely complacency in the current environment is actually making what should be an almost if not negligible possibility into something quite a bit less than negligible. Personally I see a return to a Cold War like situation vastly more likely than a World War.
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True, and that might be important if we weren't talking about a whole magnitude more defence spending compared to Russia
I cannot imagine that Russia is doing anything except produce as many arms as their economy will allow, any alteration to this would require radical changes to their economy which would damage it in the long term
I think when it comes to cruise missiles and the like then sure, but look NATO airpower compared to Russia, without comparing the exact numbers, I would imagine we have something like 10x the amount of fighters. They don't necessarily need to be dropping the most advanced bombs to do enough damage when we have sheer quantity and quality of aircraft on our side.
I mean, I think our complacency was not taking Russia seriously when they told us what their demands were and what they'd do if we didn't meet them. We've then compounded that by expecting them to not be willing to lose thousands of troops, expecting some kind of miracle in terms of civil unrest or Putin to succumb to an illness, and by simply being so stubborn and stupid that the US President has not one single time picked up the phone and tried to resolve the situation. The only hope of averting another Cold War is the next US election.
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