Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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In theory though the S-400 should be used as part of a multi-layered defence or it just becomes a target itself, or in this case so ineffective they just fly right over it :s

Is there any missile system can do it all? The ship carried SM6's seem to be pretty capable, albeit very expensive at like $4 million per missile, but the US ships in the Red Sea have used them to shoot down everything including drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles
 
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Some really horrible FVP footage of Russians getting their heads blown up etc, some praying, playing dead, sleeping or drunk. Best army in the world

Ukraine has so many drone pilots and drones now, Zelensky has signed a decree making them part of a new branch of the military

Probably the first country in the world to give drone/unmanned systems their own military branch

This was probably done so they can fix some of their logistics issues. I've read that Ukraine has thousands and thousands of drones sitting in store that can't get to the front line, old school military commanders in the army probably place higher value on logistics for other things. Having their own branch, they will get their own funding and leadership

 
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This should be an interesting video. Hearing the other side.


So it’s a war which will apparently end dominance of the US dollar… but was started by someone who’s made it their raison d'être to end US global hegemony, and now it’s his duty to interview said person so old uncle Putin can explain it all to us stupid English speaking people who apparently missed the memo.

Seriously. This is beyond surreal.
 
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Other side? Would you say the same of an interview of Hitler?

Putin isn't Hitler though. There's no death camps, the civilian deaths are extremely low for a conflict of this scale, and there's no genocide being committed. It's just a war, like any of the wars we've been involved in over the past 30 years. Sure it's illegal, but so was Iraq. What Israel is currently doing is far worse than what Russia has done in terms of civilian deaths; yet we support Israel.
 
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Putin isn't Hitler though. There's no death camps, the civilian deaths are extremely low for a conflict of this scale, and there's no genocide being committed. It's just a war, like any of the wars we've been involved in over the past 30 years. Sure it's illegal, but so was Iraq. What Israel is currently doing is far worse than what Russia has done in terms of civilian deaths; yet we support Israel.

Putin poses a thread to global security, just as hitler did.

Hitler didn’t commit genocide until he did. And there is already evidence that Putin has already crossed the line.
 
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While it's funny, it should be noted that the S-400 is not an anti-cruise missile battery. Not all of the missiles they use can actually hit cruise missiles and even if they had been loaded with ones that can their radar only has a ~30KM detection limit for cruise missiles due to how low they fly (and would have needed to be sent data from another source such as an AWACS or another SAM unit in order to engage).

Obviously the fact they weren't getting data that would have let them shoot at them (assuming they had capable missiles) and they didn't appear to be guarded by other AA units capable of defending the S-400 form cruise missiles, reflects badly on Russia.

They had a tor system there as well.
 
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Putin isn't Hitler though. There's no death camps, the civilian deaths are extremely low for a conflict of this scale, and there's no genocide being committed. It's just a war, like any of the wars we've been involved in over the past 30 years. Sure it's illegal, but so was Iraq. What Israel is currently doing is far worse than what Russia has done in terms of civilian deaths; yet we support Israel.
He runs his country like a criminal syndicate boss and it is no wonder that such other countries in the world are so diplomatically alligned.
 
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Putin isn't Hitler though. There's no death camps, the civilian deaths are extremely low for a conflict of this scale, and there's no genocide being committed. It's just a war, like any of the wars we've been involved in over the past 30 years. Sure it's illegal, but so was Iraq. What Israel is currently doing is far worse than what Russia has done in terms of civilian deaths; yet we support Israel.

Chechnya says hello.

No there are no massive death camps but only because today you'd never get away with it. You think Putin would morally have an issue with murdering people? He has spent his time as dictator murdering people. He bombed apartment blocks in Russia killing Russians and blamed it on Chechnya to justify the war. He has invaded Russia's neighbours and murdered its civilians. He is currently murdering Ukrainian civilians, he targets civilians. He has kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children and is an arrest warrant for war crimes from the ICC because of it.

Is he as bad as Hitler, obviously no but he is made of the same stuff and can be compared to Hitler. I've no interest in hearing propaganda from him and his stooge Carlson. I'm sure you will be glued to the screen and telling us what a great interview it was.

I don't support Israel in what it is doing but at least there are 2 aggressors there. Ukraine wasn't attacking anyone, this was a war that is wholly on Russia.
 
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What Israel is currently doing is far worse than what Russia has done in terms of civilian deaths; yet we support Israel.

As I've mentioned before civilian deaths at Mariupol alone likely are similar to the civilian deaths in Gaza so far (potentially far higher but that will likely never be proved as Russia bulldozed most of the evidence).
 
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I think that the interview will be fascinating as much as an interview with hitler would have been.
Trecherous or not this is a history defining moment in time.

Yes i suspect it to be garbage, as if hes going to say anything we dont already know.
 
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