Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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EUFA considering moving final from Russia. What? Why even consider it? Just do it. What more do they need to think about? Typical football industry putting money over anything else. Jesus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60474920
You’re talking about an industry where the top men literally sold the World Cup to a nation up to its neck in human rights abuses
 
So Lenin gets the blame from Putin but not Stalin, Kruschev, Andropov et al for perpetuating the ****show over the last hundred years.
Supposedly he looks better in death than he ever did in life, been preserved for 90 odd years, yeah creepy. Maybe Putin has a ghostwriter who lives in his Mausoleum and well its time to resurrect the union.
 
Russian embassy staff being evacuated from Ukraine now...

Anyone still stupid enough to believe they were just conducting military drills and will go home soon?
 
The eu are a joke....
Glad we left the yellow bellied ^&&^^**

France and Germany made a lot of noise about the ceasefire agreement so it's unfortunately natural for them to try to defend it, but the bigger picture is that Europe (ex-SSR's hold a different view) just doesn't trust the US enough to keep the previous geopolitical system going.

Thankfully that distrust apparently means that the European public (even Germany) want higher defence spending going by polling on the matter, so I think overall a more balanced relationship regarding security of Europe which doesn't overly depend on the stability of the American political system will end being better for everyone in the long run.

The polarisation of NATO was always going to occur without the USSR around to justify it and European establishment naturally wants to reassert it's sovereignty whenever the opportunity arises, perhaps that's about to change with recent developments such that NATO itself is reinvigorated... but who knows.
 
We have no business being there.

That's exactly what you said when Hitler attacked Poland in 1939 and look where that got you. Europe needs to be united for once or look idle how the new world war begins again. Putin won't stop with Ukraine. Russians never do.
 
I think NATO should call Putin's bluff and fly into Kyiv with enough soldiers and equipment to defend the city so that Ukraine can send it's forces elsewhere.

Though it would legitimise Putin's rhetoric (regardless of the hypocrisy) about NATO through essentially copying what he's done with the Donbas, but is he really going to launch nukes over it? I don't think so.
 
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia says it is evacuating the country's diplomatic personnel from Ukraine because they received threats.
 
That's exactly what you said when Hitler attacked Poland in 1939 and look where that got you. Europe needs to be united for once or look idle how the new world war begins again. Putin won't stop with Ukraine. Russians never do.

To be fair I doubt he was alive then. :o
 
If the Ukrainians stand and fight then it will get very bloody, very quickly.
If it turns into a genecide that could provoke NATO into action.

It won't because this is russia, all journalists will be expelled and all social media will be blocked. Anybody suspected of anything hostile to mother russia will simply disappear probably into a hole in the ground. Chechnya wanted to break away from russia look what happened there (you can't because the russians effectively made the whole place a closed area even today information is very sketchy what happened/is happening but you can bet it wasn't pleasant)
 
I think NATO should call Putin's bluff and fly into Kyiv with enough soldiers and equipment to defend the city so that Ukraine can send it's forces elsewhere.

Though it would legitimise Putin's rhetoric (regardless of the hypocrisy) about NATO through essentially copying what he's done with the Donbas, but is he really going to launch nukes over it? I don't think so.

Everybody saying Putin is a madman, he's not, he's smart, he knows the West has no appetite for conflict, he knows the worst they will do is sanctions, he knows Ukraine has inept leadership, this isn't a bluff for him, it's a bluff for the West that has been called. The question everyone should be asking, is NATO a bluff and does he think it is and does he after his conquest of Ukraine, call that bluff ?

It seems the West believe everything can be solved diplomatically yet you just have to look at Putin's moves to see it cannot
 
Dont know who it was earlier in the thread that mentioned Ukraine flags showing up on peoples social media profiles but you got it spot on, nippers girlfriend has just put a Ukraine flag overlay on her facebook profile picture :D
 
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