Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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jigger said:
That is very likely showing at least in large part, the level of Russian equipment losses. Russia has already been forced to turn to using antique kit and sending in un armoured vehicles in place of tanks and IFV’s resulting in increased troop casualties.
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Yeah, I'm assuming lower number of Ukrainian vehicle hits more recently reflects fewer targets, due to Russian losses. Possibly also the Russian shift to defense, I guess.

Always love a nice Economist analysis!
 
Another 40,000 troops sent to the meat grinder in the name of the Vladolf.

Путин мой дальнейший! Бедность или смерть!
 
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Bug One said:
That's the currenty Kremlin line, to push isolationist MAGA idiots into supporting Trump.
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Putin has already been forced to pull Americans into conflict though. For Vladolf to actually archive this goal he would have to reject China, Iran, North Korea and Syria. Non of those nations will let Russia off the hook.
 
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Stretch said:
Is that all you care about. The monetary cost?
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This isn't really about how I personally feel, yet my views do reflect how a lot of people feel, clearly. Mainly though, Ukraine cannot win this war militarily, if they could then it might be worth the cost in lives and money, but they have no chance of retaking the territory they've lost, so not only is it costly - it's pointless.
 
Roar87 said:
This isn't really about how I personally feel, yet my views do reflect how a lot of people feel, clearly. Mainly though, Ukraine cannot win this war militarily, if they could then it might be worth the cost in lives and money, but they have no chance of retaking the territory they've lost, so not only is it costly - it's pointless.
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Comrade, Ukrainians are winning. Russia will taste defeat. It will take time and millions of dead Russians but the Russian loss is now inevitable. The only question is how high the price will be for Russians.
 
Roar87 said:
This isn't really about how I personally feel, yet my views do reflect how a lot of people feel, clearly. Mainly though, Ukraine cannot win this war militarily, if they could then it might be worth the cost in lives and money, but they have no chance of retaking the territory they've lost, so not only is it costly - it's pointless.
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Nonsense.

Its been posted before in response to this incorrect statement, but look how WW1 seemed to be a stalemate and then suddenly great areas changed hands.
 
Roar87 said:
This isn't really about how I personally feel, yet my views do reflect how a lot of people feel, clearly. Mainly though, Ukraine cannot win this war militarily, if they could then it might be worth the cost in lives and money, but they have no chance of retaking the territory they've lost, so not only is it costly - it's pointless.
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We'll never know that unless we try. It's perfectly possible Ukraine could win this war just as other underdogs have done throughout history. And even if they try and fail, the settlement will be far better for Ukraine (and the world) than if they except that cannot without a fight.
 
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jigger said:
Comrade, Ukrainians are winning. Russia will taste defeat. It will take time and millions of dead Russians but the Russian loss is now inevitable. The only question is how high the price will be for Russians.
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You seem to type these statements without really any investment of your own, I bet none of you would put money on Ukraine retaking their captured territory with military force. Place a bet on it and show us you have. I don't think you actually believe what you're typing.
 
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Roar87 said:
You seem to type these statements without really any investment of your own, I bet none of you would put money on Ukraine retaking their captured territory with military force. Place a bet on it and show us you have. I don't think you actually believe what you're typing.
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If you had the ability to maybe de radicalise yourself and look beyond the twisted, entrenched views you seem to have developed you would see the reality of the situation.
 
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Ukraine are going to have to decide between two courses
Lowering the enlistment age (its currently 27 which a lot seem to ignore when thet talk about the average age of Ukrainian troops) or expand the enlistment

Its not different to how the UK and the allies etc were in WW1 and WW2, early on its voluntary sign ups. Later its forced conscription pretty much unavoidable in longer term wars.
 
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