Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Whats the deal with this?

Is Russia planning to brainwash them and send them back once they are voting adults or what


Some are put up for adoption so Russian families can take them and some are raised in state orphanages. Russia has a demographic problem and would like more young white children and also by removing children from Ukraine, it creates a population bomb in Ukraine where Ukraine's population will drastically fall in future which makes them weaker so Russia has less future issues with them when trying to take over. There are a number of other effects, stealing Ukraine's children is stealing Ukraine's future economy and the country will not just have a smaller population in future but also a smaller economy and the people will be poorer, just like Russia wants

As for brainwashing, all Russian children go through brainwashing in their state education schools, so they don't need to do anything special for these children, just send them to any Russian school and they will get brainwashing lessons as part of the standard curriculum

You may question why stealing the children of your enemies is a good idea, but Russia can write textbooks in colonisation, they have the process down pat and are experts at it. They are playing the long game here and their colonisation process has been used to subjugate dozens of populations in the last few hundred years
 
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So where does the world go from here? What is the answer? If Poland gets involved then do we enter WW3? Ukraine is in big trouble without US support and that seems to have gone with the ridiculous pathetic squabbles going on internally, the EU seems to be stepping up a bit but is it enough?

If Poland decides to secure Ukraine with troops, let’s say sends in a peacekeeping type force, then not necessarily. If Russia attacks Poland or vice versa, then escalation to war is very much on the cards. Polands military is no joke and wouldn’t take kindly to old Vladolf. This conflict is nowhere near that stage yet though.

Any significant chance of war in Europe depends entirely upon Russia and more importantly the Russian peoples tolerance of Putin. The best, probably only option to avoid war, is in support for Ukraine.
 
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What negotiations? Putin just spent 2 hours making a case for how Ukraine doesn't actually exist and Russia is just taking back what is theirs followed up by claiming no one could stop them, any negotiations would simply be a strategic ruse to weaken Ukraine's hand.

I thought he mentioned in the video that he didn't really give a **** about Ukraine until he felt it was going to be a problem (missiles, nato etc) a question asked as to why it took 22 years into his "presidency" to attack fully.

I dont trust putin as far as i throw him but i think even he qouls probably like this embarrassment to end as the SWIFT sanctions is ruining not just his economy but also denying his oligarchs a lot of freedom in spending their ill gotten cash.

To be honest your opinions come across as quite simple and your dogmatic approach suggests everything has to be solved by violence. I for one am glad you operate a warehouse and not politics. Your approach would be the same as incompetent genrals from world war 1 or just trying to win by sheer violence. (Naturally not yourself mind)


Good point, really strong and valid. Only path forward now is to get that to a million eh til the last person on either side survives!

Sounds amazing.
 
Good point, really strong and valid. Only path forward now is to get that to a million eh til the last person on either side survives!

Sounds amazing.

If you think there's any amicable resolution to this I'd like to point you to the many, many wars humanity have suffered in the past. Ultimately humanity boils down to a very simple statement - "he who has the biggest stick, wins".

But yes, let's ignore the thousands of years of history to call upon and pretend humans are nice cuddly people who want nothing but peace.
 
If Poland decides to secure Ukraine with troops, let’s say sends in a peacekeeping type force, then not necessarily. If Russia attacks Poland or vice versa, then escalation to war is very much on the cards. Polands military is no joke and wouldn’t take kindly to old Vladolf. This conflict is nowhere near that stage yet though.
Where’s this coming from about Poland? Just a hypothetical?
 
Whats the deal with this?

Is Russia planning to brainwash them and send them back once they are voting adults or what


Russia has massive demographic problems which could lead to the collapse of the country (which is one of the major reasons, amongst others, for invading Ukraine).

In essence birth rates are very low, young people (especially educated) are moving abroad and people are living longer, so in the next 30-40 years Russia will have a large pensioner population and not enough young people being productive to support the elders. That's why Russia are stealing children.

When Putin invaded he thought it would all be over in 3 days and Russia would immediately gain a 40 million population of mostly younger people.
 
I thought he mentioned in the video that he didn't really give a **** about Ukraine until he felt it was going to be a problem (missiles, nato etc) a question asked as to why it took 22 years into his "presidency" to attack fully.

I dont trust putin as far as i throw him but i think even he qouls probably like this embarrassment to end as the SWIFT sanctions is ruining not just his economy but also denying his oligarchs a lot of freedom in spending their ill gotten cash.

To be honest your opinions come across as quite simple and your dogmatic approach suggests everything has to be solved by violence. I for one am glad you operate a warehouse and not politics. Your approach would be the same as incompetent genrals from world war 1 or just trying to win by sheer violence. (Naturally not yourself mind)



Good point, really strong and valid. Only path forward now is to get that to a million eh til the last person on either side survives!

Sounds amazing.

What nonsense. Maybe actually read what Rroff is saying in its entirety instead of making straw man arguments out of context. I disagree with some aspects of Rroff’s (as we very usually do) but Rroff has an entirely sensible position and I can completely understand his thinking, even the parts our where thoughts separate. Your views on the other hand are at six’s and seven’s.
 
I thought he mentioned in the video that he didn't really give a **** about Ukraine until he felt it was going to be a problem (missiles, nato etc) a question asked as to why it took 22 years into his "presidency" to attack fully.

I dont trust putin as far as i throw him but i think even he qouls probably like this embarrassment to end as the SWIFT sanctions is ruining not just his economy but also denying his oligarchs a lot of freedom in spending their ill gotten cash.

To be honest your opinions come across as quite simple and your dogmatic approach suggests everything has to be solved by violence. I for one am glad you operate a warehouse and not politics. Your approach would be the same as incompetent genrals from world war 1 or just trying to win by sheer violence. (Naturally not yourself mind)



Good point, really strong and valid. Only path forward now is to get that to a million eh til the last person on either side survives!

Sounds amazing.
Little projection in this post lol.

If people like you were making decisions Ukraine would be controlled by Russia by now.
 
I thought he mentioned in the video that he didn't really give a **** about Ukraine until he felt it was going to be a problem (missiles, nato etc) a question asked as to why it took 22 years into his "presidency" to attack fully.

I dont trust putin as far as i throw him but i think even he qouls probably like this embarrassment to end as the SWIFT sanctions is ruining not just his economy but also denying his oligarchs a lot of freedom in spending their ill gotten cash.

To be honest your opinions come across as quite simple and your dogmatic approach suggests everything has to be solved by violence. I for one am glad you operate a warehouse and not politics. Your approach would be the same as incompetent genrals from world war 1 or just trying to win by sheer violence. (Naturally not yourself mind)

What a totally ridiculous post.

Putin can end this today. You know that right? If Putin wants this to end so badly all he has to do order the ceasefire and return his armies to Russia.

You say you don't trust Putin at all, but you want Ukraine to go negotiations with him and to trust that he will stick with whatever agreement is made. Your "negotiations" would involve giving Putin everything he wants. Letting him keep the parts of Ukraine he has taken by force. Just like what happened when he took Crimea? Wait a few years, then attack another part of the Ukraine?

It's also laughable that you think Putin doesn't want Ukraine. It also baffles me that on one hand you say you don't trust Putin, but then are quite happy to believe what he says in carefully scripted interview with Tucker Carlson. Have you not seen the videos by the state sponsored Russian media posted earlier in the this thread? The show with that Solovyov guy, Putin's mouthpiece, basically saying how the Ukraine people are a sub species and that all their children should be killed and Ukraine should be returned to Russia. This is the truth. Putin wants all of Ukraine. And why now? Probably because his time is running out and this will be his legacy.

If some foreign invader took over part of Switzerland and you negotiated with them to never to do it again. And then 6 years later they come back and try to take over another part of your country. Would you go think twice about going into any kind of negotiations with them?

Or would just let them have the parts of Switzerland that they have annexed? That's what you want Ukraine to do isn't it?

Your accusations and digs at Rroff are pathetic.
 
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Little projection in this post lol.

If people like you were making decisions Ukraine would be controlled by Russia by now.
And then complaining it was everyone else's fault when Russia starts making plays for Central Europe… giving up Ukraine now would be nothing but sunlit uplands to some.

slight correction for some Poland, might kick Russia's ass and become a serious problem........ in 10 years, which partly answers the question of why Russia made its move when it did.
 
I thought he mentioned in the video that he didn't really give a **** about Ukraine until he felt it was going to be a problem (missiles, nato etc) a question asked as to why it took 22 years into his "presidency" to attack fully.

I dont trust putin as far as i throw him but i think even he qouls probably like this embarrassment to end as the SWIFT sanctions is ruining not just his economy but also denying his oligarchs a lot of freedom in spending their ill gotten cash.

To be honest your opinions come across as quite simple and your dogmatic approach suggests everything has to be solved by violence. I for one am glad you operate a warehouse and not politics. Your approach would be the same as incompetent genrals from world war 1 or just trying to win by sheer violence. (Naturally not yourself mind)

I mean Russians did invade his space in Eve Online so I guess we do have to consider the obvious fact that they'll also invade central Europe.
 
Just have to hope Israel's attack on Rafah isn't so bloody they lose support

Already murmurings the House Speaker will reject it. I don't think it'll have much impact if any. It's still all about Trump and the Maga's.

where did all the men go?

A lot of them left the country. If you have 100-120K injured and 70k dead, it sounds about right.
 
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