Caporegime
Putin stooge! Stop freethinking.
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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Soldato
I don't remember "the other side" invading another country.
I do
I'm amazed at the crap that gets posted.
Especially the ' precision ' strikes with spliced video or no after shots.
Was a good one the other day, took out a Bradley from over 5k away with t-whatever series gun launched ATM...they hit something, not sure what as the vid was spliced and the target was a tiny black speck on the camera.
Or another where they pointed to a building with a 'himars ' inside...no evidence just a building...yeah ok.
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not saying they are right, saying propaganda works both sides
both sides see a super distorted picture of whats actually happening
based on which both sides comply, while the politicians throw more and more money (and lives) into this dumpster fire
Well the alternative was acquiescing immediately and having Russia ethnically cleanse the country of anyone who thinks they're Ukrainian, not really a choice is it?
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Isn't that just the case for both sides though? As I understand Russia's artillery situation is better than Ukraines at the minute? I'm sure those munitions work perfectly fine in most cases, a 155mm shell isn't very demanding to construct.
It is NOW yes. It was the opposite a while ago.
Plus russian shells may as well be launched by trebuchet when you consider their accuracy
Russia have resorted to again their level everything in order to send the zerg afterwards.
Its WW1 type tactics as discussed before, and WW1 tactics send bonkers amount of shells of which a very high % end of achieving nothing than further throwing the soil around.
In World War 1 total deaths from artillery was around 8 million, I think you imagine artillery as this thing which misses and causes no casualities most of the time, where as the reality is that artillery is absolutely devestating in a conflict of this nature, which is exactly what Russia prepared for during the Cold War.
Artillery
World War I was a war of artillery - The Big Guns. Rolling barrages destroyed the earth of France and Belgium and the lives of many.
This conflict is probably the closest we've had to trench warfare since WW1, so I don't imagine the results would be vastly different, given both sides have access to drones to direct artillery fire I can only assume they work as a significant force multiplier for artillery.
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Ukraine is firing up to 7,000 rounds a day, a fraction of the 60,000 shells Russia was firing earlier this year: report
Ukraine is barely firing a tenth of the 60,000 shells Russia fired daily earlier this year, according to a CNN report, but is targeting 10,000 rounds a day.www.businessinsider.com
People do understand that Russia artillery numbers are just wayyy higher right?
That's 5 months ago, latest reports are Russia are down to about 10,000 per day and Ukraine probably about 2,000
Soldato
I am absolutely not just watching Kiev propa at all
I do try to search out the other side
The bradley/leo zerg attack was well documented at the time as being a failed mission. However it was grossly misrepresented by Russia with various shots of the same thing and videos from different angles.
For sure a failed attack, however unlike the Russian zergs (which I was talking about infantry attacks btw) the vast majority of the Ukrainian troops were recovered. Talk was about the difference as they would all have been dead in Russian originated kit.
In World War 1 total deaths from artillery was around 8 million, I think you imagine artillery as this thing which misses and causes no casualities most of the time, where as the reality is that artillery is absolutely devestating in a conflict of this nature, which is exactly what Russia prepared for during the Cold War.
Artillery
World War I was a war of artillery - The Big Guns. Rolling barrages destroyed the earth of France and Belgium and the lives of many.www.theworldwar.org
This conflict is probably the closest we've had to trench warfare since WW1, so I don't imagine the results would be vastly different, given both sides have access to drones to direct artillery fire I can only assume they work as a significant force multiplier for artillery.
Some differences - neither side has massed manpower on the lines like in WW1 - Ukraine has a ~600 mile front line with low 100s of thousands mobilised, the Western Front in WW1 was just under 500 miles with somewhere in the millions on each side massed along it. These days there is far more information going both ways so when Russia build up for artillery strikes Ukraine generally knows it and will respond accordingly and vice versa, reducing casualties but also shapes the front line, a lot of deaths have been from zerg rushes or the result of zerg rushes when they've come off.
Drones assistance does significantly increase the ability to walk artillery fire onto the intended target but also means there is less often just massed barrages into areas packed with soldiers.
Soldato
In World War 1 total deaths from artillery was around 8 million, I think you imagine artillery as this thing which misses and causes no casualities most of the time, where as the reality is that artillery is absolutely devestating in a conflict of this nature, which is exactly what Russia prepared for during the Cold War.
Artillery
World War I was a war of artillery - The Big Guns. Rolling barrages destroyed the earth of France and Belgium and the lives of many.
This conflict is probably the closest we've had to trench warfare since WW1, so I don't imagine the results would be vastly different, given both sides have access to drones to direct artillery fire I can only assume they work as a significant force multiplier for artillery.
I dont imagine it as something that misses all the time at all, but its not the same as the WW1 barrages in that they lasted for long times, they were rolling as in they crept forwards over hours. Russia whilst they are using a lot are not doing that because they would immediately be CB fired.
Both sides are limited in how much sustained artillery fire they can put down. When you watch and listen to the guys manning the Ukraine positions they are careful in this regard.
CB fire didn't exist in WW1 hence why the rolling barrage strategy worked.
Soldato
Russian 'de-nazifier' captured!
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Tattoos when you want to be all the Nazis :s I just can't imagine the mental process of someone who'd willingly mark themselves with Waffen-SS markings.
The stupidity required to idolise a group that intended to genocide all Slavs is truly a marvel.
Soldato
But but Azov assault brigade...
Soldato
Seeing as its been discussed today, MOD earlier
Commissario
It might be a lot of artillery being fired, but nowhere near the level of WW1 warfare and the tactics, at least on the Ukrainian side are quite different to WW1, for example I don't think the Ukrainians have been doing mass runs across open ground on foot whilst under artillery barrages and taking heavy machine gun fire, and the likes of the materials that they can get into place to build shelters are much better*, not to mention most non Russian armies learned lessons during and after WW1 about better ways to protect against Artillery.In World War 1 total deaths from artillery was around 8 million, I think you imagine artillery as this thing which misses and causes no casualities most of the time, where as the reality is that artillery is absolutely devestating in a conflict of this nature, which is exactly what Russia prepared for during the Cold War.
Artillery
World War I was a war of artillery - The Big Guns. Rolling barrages destroyed the earth of France and Belgium and the lives of many.
This conflict is probably the closest we've had to trench warfare since WW1, so I don't imagine the results would be vastly different, given both sides have access to drones to direct artillery fire I can only assume they work as a significant force multiplier for artillery.
There is also a strong element that the Russians are not by any stretch of the imagination accurate with artillery, even before a couple of years of sending their troops to die in massive numbers assigning troops with little or not training to use the artillery pieces, and now they've exhausted a lot of their trained troops and are using guns and shells that are often in worse conditions.
It doesn't really matter if you're firing 5x as many shells as the other side if only 5-10% of them are hitting anywhere near the target area, whilst the other side are getting 25-50% or more hitting on target, and hitting a smaller target area.
Things like artillery really does rely on well trained crews who know, and understand what they're doing, using weapons that are accurate (or at least not worn out) and shells that are consistent, the Russians are using poorly trained crews with guns that are wearing out (if they were much good to begin with) due to the number of rounds they've fired, and shells that have the QC of an MFI flatpack that's been left in a leaky warehouse, or an 80's era Lada.
*WW1 logistics for moving materials to the front usually consisted of manpower, horses/donkeys and if you were lucky a narrow gauge train that was lightly armoured against pistol/rifle fire to get things to just before the range of the known enemy guns.
Russia issues arrest warrant for Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas. Why? Because Estonia removed Soviet statues and monuments inside Estonia
The Kremlin says arrest warrants will be issued for other politicians in former Soviet countries for removing Soviet statues
Cant make this **** up
www.dw.com
The Kremlin says arrest warrants will be issued for other politicians in former Soviet countries for removing Soviet statues
Cant make this **** up
Russia declares Estonian PM Kaja Kallas a 'wanted' person – DW – 02/13/2024
The criminal charges reportedly relate to the destruction of Soviet-era monuments. Kaja Kallas has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine defending itself against the Russian invasion.
www.dw.com
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Soldato
CR2 in action with 82nd Air Assault Brigade (interview with crew mostly)
Seems recent i think.
Seems recent i think.
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