Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I said at the start weeks ago, this was going to happen no matter what, Putin is a bully, you don't fight a bully by telling them off, you stand up to them, threatening Putin with sanctions is going to have zero impact, and I wouldn't for a second take his latest threat to the West lightly, he said the consequences of the West interfering will be catastrophic and I completely believe him, he will launch an unprecedented attack on the West if the US/UK or EU try and interfere in what is happening, I wouldn't put it past him to use chemical or atomic weapons.
 
0007 said:
It will definitely affect many powerful people around him which can force him to nudge.
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That is just wishful thinking. If it was going to have any effect then today would not have happened.

Do you think after further, even more punishing sanctions Putin is going to suddenly do a U-turn and give Ukraine back to it's people so that they can install a democracy and join NATO? I don't think so.
 
Johno please? said:
Oh so you were wrong on Iraq and wrong on Ukraine, and you still cant admit it xD
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Wrong on Iraq?

The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared explicitly for the first time last night that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal.

Mr Annan said that the invasion was not sanctioned by the UN security council or in accordance with the UN's founding charter. In an interview with the BBC World Service broadcast last night, he was asked outright if the war was illegal. He replied: "Yes, if you wish."

He then added unequivocally: "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view and from the charter point of view it was illegal."

Mr Annan has until now kept a tactful silence and his intervention at this point undermines the argument pushed by Tony Blair that the war was legitimised by security council resolutions.

The UN chief had warned the US and its allies a week before the invasion in March 2003 that military action would violate the UN charter. But he has hitherto refrained from using the damning word "illegal".

Both Mr Blair and the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, claim that Saddam Hussein was in breach of security council resolution 1441 passed late in 2002, and of previous resolutions calling on him to give up weapons of mass destruction. France and other countries claimed these were insufficient.

No immediate comment was available from the White House late last night, but American officials have defended the war as an act of self-defence, allowed under the UN charter, in view of Saddam Hussein's supposed plans to build weapons of mass destruction.

However, last September, Mr Annan issued a stern critique of the notion of pre-emptive self-defence, saying it would lead to a breakdown in international order. Mr Annan last night said that there should have been a second UN resolution specifically authorising war against Iraq. Mr Blair and Mr Straw tried to secure this second resolution early in 2003 in the run-up to the war but were unable to convince a sceptical security council.

Mr Annan said the security council had warned Iraq in resolution 1441 there would be "consequences" if it did not comply with its demands. But he said it should have been up to the council to determine what those consequences were.
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Vladimir Putin warned the West not to come to Ukraine’s aid, saying that countries would “face consequences greater than any you have faced in history” if they intervened.
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Aaaaaand we're supplying arms to the Ukraine.

Bye everyone!
 
thenewoc said:
I take from this that his take on assisting Ukraine is not limited to just direct military support but also possibly to sanctions, weaponry etc. Therefore NATO may as well join Ukraine in at least aiding with air support.
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Moving troops and equipment or actually launching/dropping munitions at Russian positions?

The latter would be a Very Bad Idea.
 
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