Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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kindai said:
The videos coming out of bakhmut at the moment are brutal.

Russia seem to be spending a lot of resources here for what will be little to no long term gain?
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Maybe they wish to keep ‘evidence’ concealed there and it not be discovered should they lose. Hopefully Winter will help the Ukrainian cause and whilst I don’t wish freezing to death on anyone better that than live to fight/commit atrocities against UA.
 
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Grim5 said:
The US has intercepted an Iranian ship trying to break sanctions by sending weapons to Yemen. The ship contained 70 tons of weapons including rocket parts and fuel, grenade launchers and 7.62mm rifle ammunition

hopefully they give it to ukraine
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It was probably going to end up in Russian hands in a roundabout way.
 
Always take what you read on the internet with a pinch of salt (a dump truck load if it involves getting rich quick from trading Crypto and social media) but this post on the Reddit Combat forum is an eye opener:

Honestly, the entire experience was pretty surreal. I had a deployment to Afghanistan with the U.S army. The Ukrainians don't plan 1/10th as much as we did in Afghanistan. It was kinda crazy. The mission brief was "we're here, they're there, any questions?" And when you had questions they'd always say "we'll see". Then comms was a joke. One mission we got a radio but they didn't have a freq set up yet. They said "just call on ur cell once you're out there and we'll figure it out"...we ended up just using cell phones. Also you got to carry and wear what ever you want. Want a machine gun? Here. NLAW? Go for it. Sniper rifle? Sure. Here is a box of grenades from 1986, take however many you want. Don't wanna wear plates? IDGAF...the artillery is constant but it didn't bother me as much as I thought . 75% of the foreigners I met were absolutely full of **** about their past experience. "Oh I was a green beret" drops their magazines on patrol. Seriously this guy was dropping mags like bread crumbs as he walked because he put them in backwards. Another guy was "SAS" but literally froze halfway across a field because the arty scared him so much. I was only in 3 big firefights, like within 150 meters. Luckily on all of them I was with some solid dudes and we did well. It was fun at first but then we took quite a few casualties that could have been avoided and I decided to head home. I'm planning on going back but I've made some contacts with other groups who have their **** together better. Anyone who wants to go, should. But just be honest about ur experience. If you have none? That's fine. Just be teachable and the Ukies will send you to a basic for 2 months to get you trained up.
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Ukraine doesn't have a global spy satellite system and thousands of intelligence officers all over the place so... not a shocker that they don't plan as well as the literal biggest spender on all of that over the next several countries combined.

It's known that the international legion was a bit crap at the start and probably still is to some degree, any serious person seems to have ended up embedded with more experienced AFU units.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
Always take what you read on the internet with a pinch of salt (a dump truck load if it involves getting rich quick from trading Crypto and social media) but this post on the Reddit Combat forum is an eye opener:
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I've seen a few reports like in the interview linked recently of volunteers who claimed experience with various specialised units who lacked basic survival training, etc.

Can't remember if it was Civ Div but one guy that was uploading videos had half the group they were with initially turn tail and quit first time there was distant artillery in the direction they were heading - several of them were genuine recently serving soldiers from the US, etc. who'd never seen action before.

The lack of organisation would **** me off though - nothing worse than putting yourself in a risky situation like that and no one is taking any responsibility or command, running around like headless chickens - sure you can't plan for everything but basic stuff like comms, recognition systems, fallback planning, etc. shouldn't be chaos to get up and running.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
Interesting fact, Russia has lost more people this year than any other time since WW2, so this special operation is bleeding Russia dry of its manpower. Figures for Ukraine are equally worse too but Ukraine will be supported when this ends unlike Russia.
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all marked as covid deaths, probably should have been vaccinated.
 
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Rroff said:
I've seen a few reports like in the interview linked recently of volunteers who claimed experience with various specialised units who lacked basic survival training, etc.

Can't remember if it was Civ Div but one guy that was uploading videos had half the group they were with initially turn tail and quit first time there was distant artillery in the direction they were heading - several of them were genuine recently serving soldiers from the US, etc. who'd never seen action before.

The lack of organisation would **** me off though - nothing worse than putting yourself in a risky situation like that and no one is taking any responsibility or command, running around like headless chickens - sure you can't plan for everything but basic stuff like comms, recognition systems, fallback planning, etc. shouldn't be chaos to get up and running.
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When was the last time any Nato country participated in conventional ground and trench warfare, yet there are those on these forums who seem eager to send our troops there (but not themselves funnily enough)
 
People are saying based on the videos that it's speed potentially matches up with a Storm Shadow cruise missile that was rumoured got delivered to Ukraine last month.

That can easily travel out beyond the range of Moscow.

Russia has a pattern of launching a flurry of air launched cruise missiles from strategic bombers at the beginning of each week.

It carries a 300kg warhead (HIMARS ATACMS = 227kg) which is pretty damn large and it makes sense Ukraine working off live satellite data hit multiple bombers as they were prepping for a raid.

There is other discussion it could be new Ukraninan home-brew long-range jet-powered drone with a 75kg warhead.
On second thought this makes sense as long-range foreign weaponary has not currently been granted like ATACMS due to escalation by shooting into Russia but Ukranian's own stuff is fair game.

If Russia are admitting to 2 bombers being "damaged" I guarantee its more that have been totally taken out which they won't be able to replace as the last "new" big bombers Russia produced was from the 1970's.

Oh and also those Iranian drones from last month are unable to fly in cold weather so that's why we aren't seeing those anymore :cry:.
 
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CaneyJ said:
People are saying based on the videos that it's speed potentially matches up with a Storm Shadow cruise missile that was rumoured got delivered to Ukraine last month.

That can easily travel out beyond the range of Moscow.

Russia has a pattern of launching a flurry of air launched cruise missiles from strategic bombers at the beginning of each week.

It carries a 300kg warhead (HIMARS ATACMS = 227kg) which is pretty damn large and it makes sense Ukraine working off live satellite data hit multiple bombers as they were prepping for a raid.
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Possibly though it seems a bit further than the 560km range, maybe they flew very close to the Russian border or even into Russia before launching?

The suggestion of the Ukrainian drone seems plausible too, that's apparently got a longer range.

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(The 50km mark is on the border so if launched from there then that still gives approx 610km which is further than the apparent 560km range, though would they launch from that close?)
 
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