**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

[Havana_UK]

Personally I wouldn't put anything other than the OE fit tyre on an M car. I've been massively impressed with Michelin PSS, not just the performance but how long they last as well.

 

[jamoor]

Personally I wouldn't put anything other than the OE fit tyre on an M car. I've been massively impressed with Michelin PSS, not just the performance but how long they last as well.

Yeah I've already got those on.

Costco have £50 off 4 tyres, so I guess I will buy the Michelins.

 

[mrk]

On the other hand I've been more impressed with the CSC6 on the M3 than the PSS. The PSS are not tyres that favour wet conditions.

To be expected though, newer tyre technology and all that.

My next tyre will be the PS4S for even greater performance.

 

[Havana_UK]

Contis always perform great, but they're made out of a rubber which must just evaporate! They wear out so quickly!

I've not had any problems with PSS in the wet myself.

 

[Clarkey]

On the other hand I've been more impressed with the CSC6 on the M3 than the PSS. The PSS are not tyres that favour wet conditions.

To be expected though, newer tyre technology and all that.

My next tyre will be the PS4S for even greater performance.

So you prefer the Conti over the Michelin, but your next tyre is going to be Michelin?

 

[mrk]

Double post, what's up with the forum tonight...

 

[mrk]

I've done some 10K already and the rears look like they still have at least 6mm left on them, the fronts still look new. Poor wear was certainly the case for the CSC5, but I've only seen mixed tread wear comments on the 6. My experience of them so far is in the favourable group.

So you prefer the Conti over the Michelin, but your next tyre is going to be Michelin?

On the other hand I've been more impressed with the CSC6 on the M3 than the PSS. The PSS are not tyres that favour wet conditions.

To be expected though, newer tyre technology and all that.

My next tyre will be the PS4S for even greater performance.

Read what I wrote again.

 

[Clarkey]

PSS is already highly regarded in terms of wet grip, I very much doubt there's going to be some kind of night and day difference between that and ps4s.

 

[mrk]

PSS are known for their ultimate dry grip, especially on track. They are not known for their ultimate wet grip. The CSC6 (edit, as well as the PS4 really) are currently highly regarded for their wet and dry grip on the road, they are not a track tyre, but are also good on a track. The PSS beats them on track (as you'd expect).

Why would you pay more for a tyre that isn't as good on the road in typical conditions that we have, just because of its track performance credentials and street cred online?

 

[[TW]Fox]

PSS is already highly regarded in terms of wet grip, I very much doubt there's going to be some kind of night and day difference between that and ps4s.

Actually it's the main area of improvement.

 

[Gaygle]

Why would you pay more for a tyre that isn't as good on the road in typical conditions that we have, just because of its track performance credentials and street cred online?

The East and South have, on average, 113 days of rain each year. Meaning the typical condition is dry weather performance

The feel you get from the PSS is unlike any tyre I've had before. It is very good indeed. Anyway, who is trying to carry another few MPH through the bends in the wet and cold? Not many people. Which means you're buying them for the stopping ability in soaking wet conditions when there is standing water on the road, which again, isn't that often.

Don't get me wrong, now I'd have the PS4S over the PSS, but the absolute control and how settled the PSS shouldn't be dismissed because it performs marginally worse in very wet conditions than a tyre 6 years newer in design.

 

[mrk]

But I've had the PSS, and now have the CSC6 which I am finding to be better in everyday conditions. I paid nothing for the PSS, so have no bias toward them, I am merely sharing my experience of them! I find the CSC6 quieter, more fuel efficient (long term average MPG is up), and obviously better in the wet and cold (which we get a lot of these days).

I fully intended on keeping the PSS trend going each time I needed new tyres, but the reviews on the CSC6 were tempting enough to give them a try, and am glad I did. Saved some money, and got a better tyre. I will be getting the PS4S next, as they are clearly better tyres than both in all regards, and worth paying extra for.

I just think the PSS are severely over-hyped among the online car crowd.

 

[Biffa]

I remember when I was last looking at tyres that the PSS isn't always the best tyre in all sizes, that it tends to be a better tyre in the wider sizes high performance car sizes than in your average hot hatch size (215-225) say.

 

[thewanted]

If a car comes out of the factory with 93Y tyres, would I be able to run 97Y instead? If so, what negatives as associated with running a higher load index?

 

[[TW]Fox]

Yes you can and there are not really any major negatives.

 

[Steedie]

Fox, have you changed your tyres on the 530d yet? Or do you still have the factory fit run flats?

 

[thewanted]

Yes you can and there are not really any major negatives.

Brilliant, thanks. I can get the CSC6s in 97Y which are a much more attractive option than the Bridgestones and Hankooks that the A4 comes with as standard.

 

[mjt]

Would tyre pressures need to be adjusted slightly?
Or is that only with XL tyres?

 

[[TW]Fox]

Fox, have you changed your tyres on the 530d yet? Or do you still have the factory fit run flats?

Factory Pzeros.

 

[Steedie]

Ah ok, mine are on Bridgestone Turanza's. Was just wondering if you'd ditched the run flats yet. I must say the ride is brilliant even with them on which is surprising.

Even better considering it looks to be around 7-800 to replace all four corners