Upset neighbours

[Ayahuasca]

Stand and bang, otherwise your wife is going to leave you after you allowed another adult to swear at your young children unchallenged instead of having a quiet word with you first.

 

[Haggisman]

The odd screech is one thing but many parents don't control their kids behaviour to acceptable levels and instead encourage unacceptable noise levels by installing trampolines and inflatable swimming pools in their gardens these days. Once this happens, they then bring loud music out into the garden too.

Nothing wrong with giving the kids toys to play with. Kids with poor parents will be loud obnoxious little **** regardless of whether they have a trampoline to play with or not, conversely, kids with decent parents will (generall) be quiet (relatively - they're still kids after all) and more respectful/considerate even when playing in a pool.

I've always found it's the single/childless couples who decide to play their **** music and scream, shout and swear at each other whilst getting more and more drunk late into the evening, vs even the crap parents who at least want to get their kids to bed at some point.

Guessing you don't have kids

 

[thenewoc]

Nothing wrong with giving the kids toys to play with. Kids with poor parents will be loud obnoxious little **** regardless of whether they have a trampoline to play with or not, conversely, kids with decent parents will (generall) be quiet (relatively - they're still kids after all) and more respectful/considerate even when playing in a pool.

I've always found it's the single/childless couples who decide to play their **** music and scream, shout and swear at each other whilst getting more and more drunk late into the evening, vs even the crap parents who at least want to get their kids to bed at some point.

Guessing you don't have kids

No, and I'd rather not hear other peoples because their parents can't control them appropriately! The parents should be setting the rules not the other way around!

 

[sidimmu]

Yes, I know the OP is the parent of the noise maker(s), I was combining the correct course of action for anyone else reading.

The odd screech is one thing but many parents don't control their kids behaviour to acceptable levels and instead encourage unacceptable noise levels by installing trampolines and inflatable swimming pools in their gardens these days. Once this happens, they then bring loud music out into the garden too.

okay got ya.

As for the odd screech yeah thats one thing, but general noise from kids playing on a trampoline or swimming pools is a bit of a reach mate. Do you not want kids to have fun in their own homes?
Installing a trampoline or swimming pool does not encourage unacceptable noise levels.

 

[sidimmu]

No, and I'd rather not hear other peoples because their parents can't control them appropriately! The parents should be setting the rules not the other way around!

Maybe as not being a parent yourself, you can take some humility and not try to tell others how to raise their kids.

 

[thenewoc]

okay got ya.

As for the odd screech yeah thats one thing, but general noise from kids playing on a trampoline or swimming pools is a bit of a reach mate. Do you not want kids to have fun in their own homes?
Installing a trampoline or swimming pool does not encourage unacceptable noise levels.

That's why public swimming pools and leisure centres exist. Same for adults using their homes as though they were night clubs. If you're living in a residential neighbourhood behave like it!

 

[PlacidCasual]

I'm interested to hear gd's thoughts on this. As the weather has been getting better my kids (6 and 9) have been playing outside more. The neighbours behind us have complained about the noise, the first time they shouted to tell my 6 year old to stop ******* screaming. They look 50s or older and have lived in their house for 20 odd years, it's the middle of a housing estate (for reference we've lived here about 15 years). I only mention the time they've been here, as it must have been a regular occurance at some point. Kids make noise should I be trying to get them to quieten down or just leave them to it? I try to stop my son screeching, but kids make noise when they're having fun. I do know the address so the letterbox is an option . Just wondered if this is common, they've not said anything previous tears, however they've taken down a 15 foot tree recently which may have attenuated the noise somewhat.

At least you're asking the question so good on you. Loads of people these days are so self entitled they don't stop to think of others and forget we live in a community. I guess only you know how loud or how long your kids are making a noise for and how reasonable is your neighbour is being. But a lot of jackasses would just encourage their kids to be little ***** a **** the neighbours.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

The kid next door is horrible to his mum and loves to scream in the garden. She does literally nothing about it. I've had a go at him a few times. Fine with them playing, but having it all waking hours and then screaming is just too much. Yes, kids will be kids, but those who don't have kids perhaps don't want to be reminded that yours exist every waking hour.

I haven't yet punctured his football, but I'm very close. It wouldn't be so bad if we couldn't hear him screaming at his mum most nights. He treats her like dirt.

 

[sidimmu]

That's why public swimming pools and leisure centres exist. Same for adults using their homes as though they were night clubs. If you're living in a residential neighbourhood behave like it!

If you want to be a peasant in a public pool, that's for you.
Does not mean we all want to share the same, some of us want some privacy and to bomb in to the water/get drunk in the pool.

 

[grudas]

I dunno if it was constant screaming and screeching etc I’d be annoyed too. The “it’s just kids being kids” doesn’t really go from my pov. Your kids should be your problem and your neighbours should not have to deal with it. Laughing and talking is one thing. Screaming and screeching is another. If you had a dog next door barking all day and the owner said “it’s just a dog being a dog” I’m sure you’d see their pov.

I personally dislike kids in general and the noises they make go straight to my head so I’d be quite angry too if there was a noise constantly and I couldn’t enjoy my garden/outdoors.

 

[Voltar]

Depends on time of day and duration of screeching tbh.

If it’s 3pm on a Saturday for half an hour to an hour then no big deal I guess.

If it’s 7am on a Tuesday or during a working day then the neighbour is right to be upset.

Side topic-
If the neighbour was letting their dog out to bark for a couple of monkeys every morning at 07:30 and night at 7:30pm what would your view be?

 

[Haggisman]

No, and I'd rather not hear other peoples because their parents can't control them appropriately! The parents should be setting the rules not the other way around!

I'd rather not hear the sound of your lawnmower at 10am on a Sunday, or your power tools when you're doing DIY, or have to put up with the smell of your cooking or the exhaust and noise from your car driving around, not to mention the parking space you are taking up.

If you're living in a residential neighbourhood behave like it!

Oh yeah, this. It goes both ways. Of course show some consideration for your neighbours, but if you're living in a residential neighbourhood then I'm afraid you're going to have to deal with the fact there are other people around who have just as much right to live their life as you. If you don't like it then move to an isolated house in the countryside or invest in some noise cancelling headphones.

 

[thenewoc]

I'd rather not hear the sound of your lawnmower at 10am on a Sunday, or your power tools when you're doing DIY, or have to put up with the smell of your cooking or the exhaust and noise from your car driving around, not to mention the parking space you are taking up.



Oh yeah, this. It goes both ways. Of course show some consideration for your neighbours, but if you're living in a residential neighbourhood then I'm afraid you're going to have to deal with the fact there are other people around who have just as much right to live their life as you. If you don't like it then move to an isolated house in the countryside or invest in some noise cancelling headphones.

Cutting some grass for a short period is nothing like kids or adults playing in a garden the whole day with screeching and loud music. Our parking is designated, we own our parking spaces so that doesn't even come into it. We also don't cut any grass at 10am on a Sunday. You don't have a right to make an unreasonable amount of noise though, that is the point. The time of day has nothing to do with it. The neighbour wanting peace has as much right to live where they've chosen so moving shouldn't be the answer as you couldn't do that each time other neighbours move and young families move in. For all you know the neighbours wanting peace may have had it when they researched buying their home and others have moved in since.

 

[Richie]

i suspect its a childless couple who were not able to have kids of their own ( or were taken away by social services) who irritated by the fact their family life has come to nothing. this is not an insult, i had a aunt who was sort of like that. she was insane and spent a lot of time on the bottle

So many wild assumptions

Any noise outside should be kept between 8am and 10pm, too, I reckon. 9am on the weekend.

What if I want an early Tesco delivery on Sunday?

Guessing you don't have kids

Ah the good 'ol gotcha question...

A: do you have kids?
B: no I don't
A: then you wouldn't know/can't have an opinion

Or

A: do you have kids?
B: yes I do
A: then you should understand/you should know better

 

[Haggisman]

Cutting some grass for a short period is nothing like kids or adults playing in a garden the whole day with screeching and loud music. Our parking is designated, we own our parking spaces so that doesn't even come into it. We also don't cut any grass at 10am on a Sunday.

I don't care how long it is for or whether it is at 10am on a Sunday. I dont want to hear it, and I shouldn't have to. Thats why paving slabs exist. If you're living in a residential area, behave like it!

You don't have a right to make an unreasonable amount of noise though, that is the point. The time of day has nothing to do with it. The neighbour wanting peace has as much right to live where they've chosen so moving shouldn't be the answer as you couldn't do that each time other neighbours move and young families move in. For all you know the neighbours wanting peace may have had it when they researched buying their home and others have moved in since.

Depends on your definition of unreasonable. Seems (in this thread at least) you're in the minority in thinking that the sounds of children playing in a residential area during the day falls under that. Why did you decide to move to a residential area if you're unwilling to tolerate the sounds of other people?

Ah the good 'ol gotcha question...

A: do you have kids?
B: no I don't
A: then you wouldn't know/can't have an opinion

Or

A: do you have kids?
B: yes I do
A: then you should understand/you should know better

Actually it was the sweeping generalisation implication that if the poster I was quoting didn't have kids, they were obviously the party-all-night with loud music and swearing kind, to counter their sweeping generalisation that all kids are noisy little ***** and they should be seen and not heard. Just waiting for Rees-Mogg over there to suggest he wouldn't have to put up with their noise anymore if they were sent back down the mines/up the chimney (delete as appropriate), so I can post everyone's favourite "old man yells at cloud.jpg"

 

[thenewoc]

I don't care how long it is for or whether it is at 10am on a Sunday. I dont want to hear it, and I shouldn't have to. Thats why paving slabs exist. If you're living in a residential area, behave like it!



Depends on your definition of unreasonable. Seems (in this thread at least) you're in the minority in thinking that the sounds of children playing in a residential area during the day falls under that. Why did you decide to move to a residential area if you're unwilling to tolerate the sounds of other people?

Because that's where houses tend to be built. As you get older you shouldn't be forced to move to some 1 bed hovel development that no family with kids would want to move to. As usual you're defending the culprits rather than the majority of people who don't want to hear it. You don't have the right to make as much noise as possible and to hell with everyone else and that is often the case with families that have kids because they also add to the problem of giving the kids whatever they're screaming the house down for this week, whether it be a trampoline or a swimming pool because someone else has got it. The garden of a home isn't meant to be some chav amusement arcade.

 

[Haggisman]

Because that's where houses tend to be built. As you get older you shouldn't be forced to move to some 1 bed hovel development that no family with kids would want to move to. As usual you're defending the culprits rather than the majority of people who don't want to hear it. You don't have the right to make as much noise as possible and to hell with everyone else and that is often the case with families that have kids because they also add to the problem of giving the kids whatever they're screaming the house down for this week, whether it be a trampoline or a swimming pool because someone else has got it. The garden of a home isn't meant to be some chav amusement arcade.

So in your eyes, everyone with kids is a chav? Got it.

Out of interest, have you gauged your parents opinion on that viewpoint?

 

[SpellowHouse]

I'm interested to hear gd's thoughts on this. As the weather has been getting better my kids (6 and 9) have been playing outside more. The neighbours behind us have complained about the noise, the first time they shouted to tell my 6 year old to stop ******* screaming. They look 50s or older and have lived in their house for 20 odd years, it's the middle of a housing estate (for reference we've lived here about 15 years). I only mention the time they've been here, as it must have been a regular occurance at some point. Kids make noise should I be trying to get them to quieten down or just leave them to it? I try to stop my son screeching, but kids make noise when they're having fun. I do know the address so the letterbox is an option . Just wondered if this is common, they've not said anything previous tears, however they've taken down a 15 foot tree recently which may have attenuated the noise somewhat.

This is why they have estates for the over 50's!!!

Just leave them to it. Believe me when I say no council or police will give a hoot about kids being kids.

Tell 'em I'll swap house with them. (I live next to a primary school )

 

[sidimmu]

Because that's where houses tend to be built. As you get older you shouldn't be forced to move to some 1 bed hovel development that no family with kids would want to move to. As usual you're defending the culprits rather than the majority of people who don't want to hear it. You don't have the right to make as much noise as possible and to hell with everyone else and that is often the case with families that have kids because they also add to the problem of giving the kids whatever they're screaming the house down for this week, whether it be a trampoline or a swimming pool because someone else has got it. The garden of a home isn't meant to be some chav amusement arcade.

No one said we have the right to make all types of noise across all hours of the day.
But you have to realise and appreciate, kids will be awake and active during the day.

Do you happen to moan at builders or the council cutting the grass too? I guess no because its only for a short amount of time, the same thing with the kids.
Classing anyone as being loud in their garden as a chav is just silly now.

 

[Haggisman]

No one said we have the right to make all types of noise across all hours of the day.
But you have to realise and appreciate, kids will be awake and active during the day.

Do you happen to moan at builders or the council cutting the grass too? I guess no because its only for a short amount of time, the same thing with the kids.
Classing anyone as being loud in their garden as a chav is just silly now.

Got to love the irony of someone moaning about other people being selfish, whilst simultaneously expecting everyone else to go about their lives in absolutely silence so as not to bother them.