You've not addressed any viewpoints expressed in the OP - you made a couple of dozen posts where you pretend you don't know what words mean and then threw in a load of projection and now insults... Are you not capable of having a discussion or seeing a view you disagree with?
Violence in Selfridges and "drill music"
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Caporegime
Remember when people of different skin colour joked and I freaking hate this word, had banter?
Those were the days.
I get called whitey at work and constantly get told to eat fish and chips by the Swedes.
Oh those racists ...
Those were the days.
I get called whitey at work and constantly get told to eat fish and chips by the Swedes.
Oh those racists ...
What are you offended by that is leading you to believe I'm trying to insult you? I didn't pretend to not know, I made very clear I wanted to understand the definition it was used in as the context seemed a bit prejudiced before you'd even started your tyrade on why these 'urban youth' can't just pull themselves out of the life they're in.
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I hope you have a pickled herring retort? And also constantly reinforce that noggies are the best?
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Quite.
Caporegime
You get called Whitey by the Swedish people? Whats the logic behind that?
It’s clear to anyone that urban youth = blacks and he was trying to show a correlation between skin colour and crime “their usual”.
The original post was clearly another race bait thread and the usual suspects showed up. Dowie knows this, he’s just being obtuse because dowie.
Unfortunately I’m not surprised @dLockers has his posts deleted for calling this out whereas the original post isn’t edited to remove this obvious bait.
The original post was clearly another race bait thread and the usual suspects showed up. Dowie knows this, he’s just being obtuse because dowie.
Unfortunately I’m not surprised @dLockers has his posts deleted for calling this out whereas the original post isn’t edited to remove this obvious bait.
@dowie for the sake of ending this ongoing.... ‘thing’ (and asked somewhat rhetorically), when you said ‘urban youth’ did you mean ‘youth from urban areas’?
At this point I think it would be good etiquette to bring it to an end. Not that I’m a headmaster or anything, nor that you have to respond to this. It just sort of needs an ‘end’.
At this point I think it would be good etiquette to bring it to an end. Not that I’m a headmaster or anything, nor that you have to respond to this. It just sort of needs an ‘end’.
Interesting that you take this interpretation. I would never have considered the phase to mean that since it’s not implied by the natural meaning of the words used.
Of course, as cities have a greater population of overall ethnic minorities, it would be unsurprising that there are relatively high numbers of non-white people in this group.
Also, urban (as opposed to rural) does provide connotations of things which are exclusively urban, such as ‘crime associated with urban areas’.
Nevertheless, I do not read it as you have.
Pull the other one.
It got heated. Things we never cared about suddenly became really important.
Regarding the ongoing debate about 'ubran'. I've thought it was always known that when someone would say 'urban' they basically mean black youths. It was only recently in the last few years a lot of music publishers have stopped calling things 'urban music' which 99% of the time was a catch all for 'black music'
I do think you'd have to be either extraordinarily ignorant or or have been living under a rock to not have known this was a pretty common link.
Caporegime
This sentence explains 90% of the "casual racism" that is called out currently. One person decides to take offence and ascribe an absolute meaning to a wafty term or word and nothing will change their mind on the intent or use of the phrase. Urban youths to me means young lads from the city usually in the very poor areas. It doesn't have particular racial connotations to me but it clearly does to some others. Instead of debating the topic though, we end up debating 2 words for god knows how long. It boggles my mind. One person says "that terms racist", the person saying it says "no it isn't and it wasn't meant to be" and the first person instead of debating the topic just fixates on the second person clearly being racist.
I think there is a danger of thinking that London === the country here. Us country bumpkins aren't necessarily privy to the parlance of you urbanites.
My post was sincere. My views tend to be quite aligned with @Ahleckz on many things, hence my post.
Yes... it is all a strange aside.
Likewise there seemed to be more of an uproar over what BoJo may have said about people dying from COVID than..... the number of people actually dying from COVID.
It clearly does mean that to many people though, there are 10+ year old 'definitions' on urban dictionary that identify the term as specifically relating to black youths. It's not something a couple of people in this thread alone have tried to somehow redefine.
dowie is typically very well informed and I find it exceptionally unlikely he was completely ignorant to the notion that the term 'urban youth' is sometimes used as a euphemism for 'black youths', this is why the debate has raged on from here - what was meant does in effect completely define the point of the thread. If the first sentence had said 'black youths' instead of 'urban youths', it probably would have been deleted within a few minutes, which is why the people who think that's precisely what was meant despite the denials won't let it drop.
Caporegime
Not everyone that's in Sweden is Swedish.......
Especially the East African immigrant posse that do temp work here at Christmas and summer
Why do you think all Swedes are white btw ?
Caporegime
Swedish food is as garbage as British. It's very reassuring.
Hotdogs macaroni and ketchup. Pure gourmet.
Abba, Greta Thunberg...blonde hair etc?
I was wondering how getting called whitey by a Swede worked too tbh
Drill is normalising a negative and dangerous lifestyle. It isn't just local to the UK either and is fast becoming aspirational to a section of the youth. Much the same way as hard-core gangster rap did to the American impoverished population 30-40 odd years ago.
Educating your kids and promoting nuclear families will be the only way to keep the culture to a minimum.
But uncontrolled upbringings combined with poverished areas will always breed criminal and violent behaviour.
Drill is not the cause, but it does appear to be a catalyst.
Educating your kids and promoting nuclear families will be the only way to keep the culture to a minimum.
But uncontrolled upbringings combined with poverished areas will always breed criminal and violent behaviour.
Drill is not the cause, but it does appear to be a catalyst.