Violence in Selfridges and "drill music"

If my opinion didn't matter to you then you wouldn't have replied. But your assumption is correct though, people aren't "retarded" which is why your class A ******** and swift tact change to fit that narrative of yours was spotted ;)

P.s - In future, perhaps it's best to ignore it or alternatively, own it - lets be honest, it's an anonymous forum and i can't imagine the users will think any less of you than they already do :cry:

Have an awesome day though, yeah!

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Ok cool, so young black men are killing each other with knives at a much greater rate than any other group and scenes like in the OP aren't uncommon in a lot of cities in the UK, but you sure showed me by going off on a tangent and deflecting with a picture of Laurence Fox. Do you understand you don't actually win arguments or change opinions by debating like this? You'll probably be one of these that's outraged and bemused when the Tories win the next GE
 
My father was born and bred Tottenham. Old enough to remember their league and couple double and went to the old White Hart lane quite a bit as a kid. Haven't been there for at least 15 years. Place is totally unrecognisable now like most of London.
If you haven't been there for 15 years how would you know?
 
It's not uncomfortable, people know the reasons, mainly poverty. It's only uncomfortable because it's easier to blame black people instead of fixing the causes.

Because the thread basically started out as 'lol black people at it again' and jumping to conclusions based on someone involved being the son of Mark Duggan.

Can you not see it? You want to handwave it all away as "poverty" as though this could have been any kid growing up in a poor household.

Pure coincidence that this kid's dad was a violent gangster then he turns out to be one too... pure coincidence that his mates in his drill group are violent gangsters too, several of them currently serving lengthly sentences for murder right now.

One of the rival gangsters involved in a previous incident was a private school boy even!

But lets just downplay the cultural issues here...

Honestly I never realised OCUK had such a challenge with basic language. You literally made the (incorrect) statement:

After the number of posts you've made re: your inability to understand what "urban" and "youth" could possibly mean? :D
 
before drill groups there were still yardie gangsters on the streets then the road men cometh after the 2000s

it's not like it's new to see violence with weapons, at least music gives some of them a chance to escape but I reckon most of them won't even if they get monies
 
Ah yes, it must be down to poverty. These violent feral ***** are all so poverty stricken that they're walking around in expensive trainers and designer clothes whilst flashing huge wads of cash about.

Man, wish I was poor.

You are very poor at making reasonable arguments or give an objective response, everything that you say seems to be coming through a prejudiced lens.

This does not apply to all, but generally Poverty -> Lack of education -> higher risk of getting involved in gangs and crime -> expensive trainers etc are probably proceeds of crime.

But at the same time poverty does not excuse this type of behaviour, there are maybe more children that also live in poverty that do not go down the path of crime. Poverty is one factor, but not the only one.
 
You are very poor at making reasonable arguments or objective response, everything that you say seems to be coming through a prejudiced lens.

This does not apply to all, but generally Poverty -> Lack of education -> higher risk of getting involved in gangs and crime -> expensive trainers etc are probably proceeds of crime.

But at the same time poverty does not excuse this type of behaviour, there are maybe more children that also live in poverty that do not go down the path of crime. Poverty is one factor, but not the only one.

However poverty is the only one that many people would believe could be the cause; you'll see that throughout threads on this forum. They simply are not willing to consider any other factors.
 
Not sure what was an insult in my post above that the mod removed. I simply said I expected better from @dowie from his come back and that it was curious as to why he removed my user ID so I didn't get an notification? :confused::confused:
 
was curious as to why he removed my user ID so I didn't get an notification? :confused::confused:

I've got no idea what you're talking about tbh...

Do you actually have anything to add to the thread - so far you seem to have just posted about not being able to understand (or apparently google for yourself) the meaning of two words, now you're making some bizarre claim about removing your user ID????
 
So basically you've posted nearly 30 times in order to troll the thread...
I actually posted a handful of times to determine what was meant by a phrase you used, something you've yet to define. You're the one who has become hostile because you know it was used with prejudice against the people in question. You then continue to offer such pearls of wisdom like 'why don't these inner city kids with terrible role models just stick in school and get a good job?'. You're the epitome of closet racist, unwilling to try and understand what is actually going on but quite happy to point the finger and laugh. Luckily viewpoints like the one expressed in the OP are going the way of the dinosaurs.
 
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