Caporegime
You were the one who homed in on two words in the OP, continuously looking for some kind of gotcha moment.
Violence in Selfridges and "drill music"
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You were the one who homed in on two words in the OP, continuously looking for some kind of gotcha moment.
The poster is yet to identify what broad group he was meaning, as the dictionary definition I was offered doesn't really make one bit of sense in the context. His discomfort in directly answering the question indicates it isn't the simplest definition in this case.For goodness sake....
There is a value in referring to broad groups of identifiable people in typical conversation. It is obvious that dowie used the phrase in a generic sense without any intention to condemn every person within that category
If you disagree with the use of language in this manner, to avoid hypocrisy do make sure you never use the phrases ‘men’, ‘woman’, [insert gender / nationality / religion / race] ever again - instead, always say ‘some people’. It’ll be the only way to avoid falling foul of your self-imposed (and wholly unnecessary) dilemma
Nope, people are incapable of having the conversation because they can't put aside their biases.
Caporegime
Yeah, people like yourself.
you guysssssss, it is literally the first sentence of the first post. Massive generalisation and we all know what he meant by urban youth. The fact he hasn't defined it yet speaks volumes.'No wonder society is so divided', proceeds to point fingers and jump to conclusions
That's the pot calling the kettle an urban youth.
Lmao the OP asks about knife crime laws you've posted in here about 15 times all of it about semantics. And you have the audacity to talk about people not talking about the topic at hand.
Mods this has got to be grade A trolling surely?
Man of Honour
'Urban' is pretty well known as the 'karen' way of saying black. Could be dog whistle racism, could be an unfortunate choice of words
Caporegime
'No wonder society is so divided', proceeds to point fingers and jump to conclusions
That's the pot calling the kettle an urban youth.
No, it's simply based on the posts you've made in the thread. Go back and look at the conclusion you jumped to in your first post in the thread
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Amazing that the conversation has shifted to whether or not "Urban youths" is an acceptable term rather than yet another case of young men attempting to kill each other, in Selfridges of all places.
No, it's simply based on the posts you've made in the thread. Go back and look at the conclusion you jumped to in your first post in the thread
I asked a question.
The video shows a black kid having an argument with a white man? His group separates them from the man. Unless I'm missing something.
It's a deflection to get away from the uncomfortable topic of violent knife crime being committed by mostly young black males.
Caporegime
You did, immediately trying to question OPs intentions rather than discussing the topic at hand.
It's not uncomfortable, people know the reasons, mainly poverty. It's only uncomfortable because it's easier to blame black people instead of fixing the causes.
Because the thread basically started out as 'lol black people at it again' and jumping to conclusions based on someone involved being the son of Mark Duggan.
I suppose only dowie can give you an express release from your conundrum, but I really do think that this is your own conundrum and a self-imposed issue (to the point where I’m not surprised dowie has responded how he has - his sarcastic response of ‘old people from the countryside’, or whatever, should make it clear what he meant).
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Yet similar crime isn't committed by young white males from a similar socioeconomic background. There's a lot of poverty in West Yorkshire and there has been for decades, yet there isn't the same problem of people stabbing each other, maybe try again.
Caporegime
So, if you're coming in from that angle how can you question the biases of other people?