Vista Beta 2 Goes Public Today

Creative Cards

Well, a download from Creative sorts out the drivers for the X-fi, but people are reporting no sound with the Audigy series :eek: ...
 
RE: FPS Hit

Erm, I have installed vista tonight.
The glass is good. But I feel the interface is very cluttered. And I dont really need all the affects it offers. It just distracts after a while.

Dont get me wrong, its very well done. I have a 9800pro and the GUI is wonderful.

However as it uses the GUI now uses the GPU, I wasnt getting anything over 9 FPS on Oblivion at 1024x768, NO AA, NO AF, Medium Textures, Distant Lands, Distants Buildings, Full Grass Distance, Full Tree Distance, 1/2 Actor Distance, 3/4 Object Distance, 1/2 Secular Distance, Bloom Lighting on with Aero active.
I turn to Vista Basic and I get an increase in 10-12 FPS.

Havent tried any other games yet.

I find Vista is a LOT slower than XP on my machine. I will have a good play with it, but until I upgrade from my AMD XP2600+, 9800 Pro. 1 Gig of memory.
computer.

But even then, will I still be loosing FPS for a GUI that has "transparent borders around a window". I mean, how often will I actually be looking "thru" the borders of my windows???? I have never needed to do this before. In fact I dont think I ever will.

Even if I upgrade my hardware, why dont I stick on XP and have the extra FPS.

Ok, throw an extra gig of RAM at it. Add 1.5 Gighz to the CPU. Dual Core the CPU. Oh, and add another CPU as awell. Add SLI or equivelent to the GPU and it will be fine. It will run fine....

But then, throw all the above at XP and it will blister.

From first impressions I will be dragging my heels and sticking with XP, until the latest game release no longer works on it. (Even after I upgrade to QUad Core CPU, and Dual Core GPU)
 
RE: My Vista Performance rating.

It appears Vista has given my machine a rating of 3.

AMD 2600+ Ahtlon ..... 3.2
1Gig of Ram ..... 3.2
Hard Disk 64 Gig (Partition) ..... 3.8
Graphics (9800 pro) ..... 5.7 (?)
Gaming Graphics 256Mb ..... 4.4

Dont ask how it worked out 3 as the total. Perhaps MS doesnt consider graphics to be important? (Yeah, go buy an XBOX 360 you suckers)
 
Using vista at the moment, after the random driver problems it seems to be running okay. It didn't like the Windows XP Realtek audio driver to start with then it seemed to change it's mind once I told it to unistall it. Likewise it accepted my Wireless driver but rejected the software, this may be due to vista not using the same zero config as XP did though. I'm not sure how the system reating works buy I think it goes on Mhz which is quite foolish in the day and age of lower clocked Intel and AMD processors that outperform higher cloked models.

Not tried any games on it yet so I can't check the FPS, iTunes seems happy on it as well as most utils I used in XP. I find that IE7 doesn't tolerate Internet connection drops when downloading (I am in Uni halls and the WiFi - provided by KeySurf/KeyCom is very bad). To resolve this I'm using free download manager which i Used in XP anyway.

My CPU runs 5 degrees hotter in vista though, I think this may be due to all of the backround taks it runs like background index and background defrag. It took a while to get it intalled, I had to mount the image in a virtual drive in XP because the DVD I burnt and tested caused file copy errors in setup. I used partition magic and used some of the free space on my backup drive to install Vista on, a 16GB partition, of which Vista uses almost half of for itself.

It's becomming annoying that Vista asks you several times before it lets you do anything, it's like Delete File> Are you sure? > Are your really Sure? > Sorry, you are not authorised to do this > Do you want to authroise this? > The file has been moved to the recycle bin. Empyting the recycle bin is another lot f this. I'm sure there is a way to stop this but I'll see soon.
 
RE:Back on XP pro

Well.

That was worth it. Im back on XP Pro. And compared to Vesta (Sorry, vista),
it flys. Really glad I used Ghost prior to Install. 20 mins later and im back on XP
Pro.

Vesta is alright.... I dont think its worth the upgrade. It may be when WinFX is realised. Until then it seems like mega bloatwared version of WindowsXP-Plus (Remember those Windows-plus, Win98 Plus, Win95 Plus, a few screensavers.... lol)

Honestly, stop using Vesta, and ghost XP back on your machine....

Even the boot time is quicker!!!
 
Gandalf501 said:
Even the boot time is quicker!!!
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i'm not defending vista here but what is it with people's obsession with boot times? :p on my setup it probably takes vista 10-20 seconds longer to boot. so what? i turn on my pc once a day. ok bit of a pain during the intial setup as a few apps require a restart but other than that..... :confused:

one novelty in vista that soon wore off for me is aero glass. i mean what a waste of time and effort that was to make. i really cannot see the appeal after you've seen it for the first time and used it for 5 minutes..... :o
 
Gandalf501 said:
Dont ask how it worked out 3 as the total. Perhaps MS doesnt consider graphics to be important? (Yeah, go buy an XBOX 360 you suckers)
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Graphics must be very important becasue it gives me a 1:
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The only thing I see as subpar is the GPU. I suppose it thinks I'm also running out of space on my Vista partition too. We'll see how that number changes when my X850 Pro arrives next week.

I see it names my CPU by its stock speed. I have two of them running overclocked at 3.2 GHz, not 1.6 GHz. I don't know if it is capable of detecting overclocks. If that is the case this whole rating system is useless to enthusiasts like the ones on this forum.
 
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mark_t50 said:
Trying to install Vista x64 but it doesn't seem to like my multiple SATA drives or the Sil3114 RAID controller on the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium. I've got 2 x 74gb Raptors in RAID 0 and 2 x 160gb WD in a second RAID 0. My plan was to leave XP on drive 1 (the 2 raptors) and install on drive 2 (the 2 WD)

I get to the bit where I need to add my sata drivers from floppy and it just will not see either drive :( I've tried the latest XP/2000/2003 64-bit drivers from Asus and Sil with no luck.

I think I might try breaking up the RAID to see if it will even see individual drives, if not I might just give up till some better drivers come out. Unless some of you very clever people on here can suggest anything :)
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i have had exactly the same problem but on the Nvidia controller. When i have a raid array created I see the disks but as individual disks. With no RAID enabled i don't see any disks at all.
 
I gave up and broke my array, Vista saw the drive fine then with no driver install necessary. This is for the 64 bit version and I tried the drivers mentioned earlier in this thread.
 
Is there a tool online which acts like the built in Vista tool and gives you points on your system.
I want to see how much my system would be rated if I installed Vista

AMD Athlon 64 Winchester @ Stock
1 GB RAM (2 * 512 in Dual Channal)
HIS Excalibur ATI x800xl iTurbo
Samsung Spinpoint 160Gb HDD
DFI NF4UT Motherboard

:)

And also, if you had a Pentium/AMD XXX and overclocked it, would Vista take that into consideration :)

Thanks :)
 
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