Vista Beta 2 Goes Public Today

Oracle · 15 Jun 2006 at 18:57

BillytheImpaler said:
I don't really know what you mean by mount to an external drive. To dual boot you have to use a bootloader. If you do not install outright, you will have to come to the party with your own bootloader like Grub. I imagine you do not intend on messing with that.

So whats Daemon tools for!? I thought that mounted the image to a spare 15gb on my HD!?

All i'm asking is that if I mount it to my external HD (via USB) will i be able to dual boot!?

csmager · 15 Jun 2006 at 19:01

Oracle said:
So whats Daemon tools for!? I thought that mounted the image to a spare 15gb on my HD!?

All i'm asking is that if I mount it to my external HD (via USB) will i be able to dual boot!?

I think you need to define what you mean by mount, because I don't think it's what anyone else understands mount to mean based on the context you're using it in.

You can use daemon tools to mount the image in a virtual dvd drive in XP. You can then install off this onto a hard disk. Someone in this thread has already tried to install to a USB drive and had no joy.

Oracle · 15 Jun 2006 at 20:19

Right, I have VMware and Daemon tools.

What do i need to do!?

Mount the iso to a virtual DVD drive. How?

Then, whats stopping me installing it to my external USB HD drive. Could it also be installed over a network!?

Thanks

Bony Maloney · 15 Jun 2006 at 20:20

Oracle said:
Right, I have VMware and Daemon tools.

What do i need to do!?

Mount the iso to a virtual DVD drive. How?

Then, whats stopping me installing it to my external USB HD drive. Could it also be installed over a network!?

Thanks

With regard the usb hard drive it wouldn't install on mine. It went on my ide hard drive no problem.

turtle3 · 15 Jun 2006 at 22:02

The $6m Dan said:
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Wireless drivers I thought were going to be unavailable as my BT Voyager 1040 card has no drivers on the BTVoyager site. Luckily they were installed when I ran medai centre for the first time. It would have been nicer if Vista installed them at boot though.

So the BT voyager 1040 card definately works in vista, How did the drivers install?? I may get this card if it deffo works with vista

NathanE · 15 Jun 2006 at 22:06

Oracle said:
can i ask a quickie question? Can I mount this to an external HDD and then still have the option to dual boot!?

If so, how would I go about doing it!?

I have Daemon Tools...

Thanks

That makes no sense. You don't mount something to a hard drive. You mount a drive or drive image to a drive letter/access path.

Basically all you use DTools for is to gain access to a ISO/BIN image. Once mounted you have a drive that looks, acts and behaves exactly as though you had burnt that image to a CD and accessed it that way. DTools simply saves time and CDRs.

If you want you can right-click the DTools drive(s) in My Computer and setup file sharing so other people on the network can access the mounted images.

saddler · 15 Jun 2006 at 22:20

I've read through this thread but cant find a specific answer to my problem, ive installed vista beta on my 2nd harddrive, it installed fine but on loading i get the old \windows\system32\winload.exe is missing corrupt problem, What do i need to do get it to boot properly?

Cheers

John

J.T · 15 Jun 2006 at 22:37

Just finished downloading this, I had the file size issue that some others have had, thanks to who ever suggested trying "Free Download Manager" it worked a treat.

Took 2 hours to the minute to download

Am now setting it up on VMware to try it out.

NickK · 15 Jun 2006 at 23:13

Installed 64bit vista on a 20GB partition on a old dead raptor (part of it's good hence I can get 20GB out of it).
14GB for windows!
Then I can't install BF2 and SF + patches, just BF2.

It hammers the crap out of the hard drive until it's finally happy with cleaning up the install and defrag after.

Oddly I find it faster than XP32 on some things, slower on others. It loves dual core too (2.6GHz X2 4400) but gives it a 3 rating.

Creative XiFi Music Extreme doesn't work :rolleyes:

At one stage it got into a loop somewhere and the page file got up to 7GB! Needless to say it stayed stable but paging+defrag = slideshow!

Feelwise it's nice.. it's like a luxury sofa. Comfy, fast if dropped off a cliff but when you want to move it....

Bony Maloney · 16 Jun 2006 at 04:49

saddler said:
I've read through this thread but cant find a specific answer to my problem, ive installed vista beta on my 2nd harddrive, it installed fine but on loading i get the old \windows\system32\winload.exe is missing corrupt problem, What do i need to do get it to boot properly?

Cheers

John

Try installing it on a new partition on your primary hard drive. I had the same problem with my secondary. Tried it on the primary, and bingo it installed 1st time. Is your secondary hard drive usb by any chance? Mine was and it just wouldn't have it, and I got the winload.exe error.

saddler · 16 Jun 2006 at 11:49

Cheers, i'll have to create a new primary partition on my main drive to try it. Also does anyone know how to remove the vista install of my second drive without reformatting as i dont really want to wipe all the other data on there?

split · 16 Jun 2006 at 12:01

1. Backup, backup, backup
2. Reboot and Boot to your XP CD-ROM
3. Start the Recovery Console
4. Run Fixboot
5. Run fixmbr to reset the master boot record
6. Exit the Recovery Console
7. Reboot
8. To remove the extra entry, edit the boot.ini file to remove the "Microsoft Windows Longhorn" entry.
9. Format Your Vista Partition

saddler · 16 Jun 2006 at 12:16

split said:
9. Format Your Vista Partition

Its that bit thats the problem, I installed it on my backup drive and im paranoid about formatting it (main drive is bound to pack up at that exact moment

)

I'm getting an external backup drive soon so i'll leave vista there til I can copy my backup files across

John

pyro · 16 Jun 2006 at 12:37

The uac is a pile of ****! Ohhh! You want to change your desktop background?! HACKS HACKS HACKS! :rolleyes:

So far so good, it doesn't like my x800 drivers and for a moment I couldn't use my onboard lan (nforce2) but it's fine now, I have changed all he fluffy cartoon style for the original windows look too.

KennyBhoy · 16 Jun 2006 at 13:54

Just installed and activated the 32 Bit version....From what i can see it does look rather good but it's running horribly for me......My HDD won't shut the hell up while it's running.....Sounds like it's defraggin, it runs like a slideshow when i'm doing literally nothing....Move the mouse, 3 second freeze, move mouse, 3 second freeze......And it keeps doing that and i have to reboot

csmager · 16 Jun 2006 at 14:03

KennyBhoy said:
Just installed and activated the 32 Bit version....From what i can see it does look rather good but it's running horribly for me......My HDD won't shut the hell up while it's running.....Sounds like it's defraggin, it runs like a slideshow when i'm doing literally nothing....Move the mouse, 3 second freeze, move mouse, 3 second freeze......And it keeps doing that and i have to reboot

It shouldn't have any performance impact, but different hardware causes different problems until the drivers are all sorted properly.

You are right though - after installation the HDD is defragged and indexed in the background.

Trifid · 16 Jun 2006 at 18:28

Can anyone download from the MS site? I am trying to download the 32bit version but all I get is network error...

Trif.

NathanE · 16 Jun 2006 at 18:53

pyro said:
The uac is a pile of ****! Ohhh! You want to change your desktop background?! HACKS HACKS HACKS!

So far so good, it doesn't like my x800 drivers and for a moment I couldn't use my onboard lan (nforce2) but it's fine now, I have changed all he fluffy cartoon style for the original windows look too.

UAC is broken in Beta 2. Wait for the next CTP which will have a vastly improved UAC.

Bony Maloney · 16 Jun 2006 at 21:57

Vista tip of the week, for those that want rid of the security centre icon

The Windows Security Center has been one of the biggest annoyances since the inception of the idea with Windows XP Service Pack 2. Now with Windows Vista™ it is new, improved, and even more annoying than ever before! Untill now, you could not get rid of the icon from your tray.

Here's how to nuke Security Center off your system. This has been tested and there are no adverse effects from doing this.

1. Go to Start --> Run and type "cmd" without the quotes.
2. Type "cd\" followed by "cd windows\system32".
3. Now run the following commands:
* takeown /f wscapi.dll
* takeown /f wscsvc.dll
* takeown /f wscui.cpl
4. Now you have ownership of the files. Go into the system32 directory in explorer and right click each file, go to the security tab and add an entry for everyone and give them full access permissions.
5. Disable the Security Center Service via services.msc if you have not already done so.
6. In the system32 folder rename the three mentioned dll's (change their file extension to .bak).
7. To get rid of the Security Center service from services.msc drop to a command prompt and type the following:
* "REG DELETE HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\WSCSVC /F", hit enter and reboot.
8. Enjoy no more nagging or icon in your system tray!

Berserker · 16 Jun 2006 at 23:26

Got it installed after about 4 attempts.

Tip: if you're using VMWare, leave the network cable connected.

Already crashed explorer once (copying a few hundred MB of files for our in-house developed software), found a few bugs, that sort of stuff.

Runs a bit slow on my P4 1.7 with 768MB total RAM. Wonder why that is. :rolleyes: