Weekend Football Thread. 7-9 *spoilers*

what happened to the days when people used to fear us and we just 'won' convincingly without having to drag ourselves back from the brink?

You lost that aura when you decided to sell Ronaldo and havent bothered to replace him with someone whos just as good or better. Saying that you got £80mill sitting there so i expect Fergie to make a big signing either in Jan or in the summer.

As much as i wanted a draw, i would have been much more happier if Man Utd had won as i despise Chelsea...your still a very good team though so im not going to try and write you off yet...but winning the Prem is going to be a tough one for you guys as you Chelsea and Arsenal to contend with...despite what people might say Arsenal are in with a very very good chance of winning the Prem as long as we dont lose our composure/concentration or get injuries to our main players ie Fab, Arshavin, RVP amongst others.
 
Redknapp does exactly the same as do most of the Prem referee's, Fergie is highlighted because he moaned about the ref a couple of weeks ago (which he was warned about his conduct) Which kind of ****'s on your last point.

After every draw or loss? Nope.

As for them taking action, what he receives is no more than a slap on the wrist for adding pressure onto refs.
 
you cant even try to win the premiership with 3x unknown quantity wingers...especially as we play with 2x wingers...they would both be fine as a substitute for ronaldo, giggs, or beckham...but to have to play say.. Nani and Valencia in our first team takes the michael.

then throw in obertan and u can see just how far fergie has lowered the standard on the wings.

this is after he has deteriorated our centre midfield quite badly, using people like carrick and scholes, when yes 5 years ago maybe scholes was good.. and carrick.. well...he's no keano. hell i dont even know what he is.

i like berbatov but really fergie blew 30 million on a player we didnt really need him that much. i cant help but feel that Torres, or eve Tevez would have been better overall, especially considering age, effort, and sell on ability..
 
well you cant say fergie hasnt taken a great team and made it mediocre.

its not that we lost ti liverpool, nor that we drew with moscow, or that we also lost to chelsea.

its that at no point did we ever look like winning any of the above matches.

Well thats a crock of **** if you ask me

The only game where we didnt look like winning was the CSKA game - the two EPL games were pretty even and if anything we tested Cech much more than VDS was tested

Yesterday's game was so marginal , a different ref / assistants and Utd could easily have been up 2-0 at half time, the performance itself was right up there

People forget very quickly that we havent won at SB for a good number of years (admittedly a couple of them have been end of season where they wont alter anything)

We have also recently had West Ham, Liverpool, Man City all do the double over us (the last two both last season I think), and thats not including the individual losses here and there

Arsenal have got a gigantic chance without a doubt and while AW has won the league many times , and I guess Gallas and Silvestre have with other clubs - are there any players left in Arsenal's squad that won it with AW? Thats a significant factor if you ask me either way.

It also depends who gets bought by which Manager in Jan (I really dont expect SAF to buy significantly unless there are more significant /long term injuries, I suspect Chelsea will buy due to ACoN)

After every draw or loss? Nope.

As for them taking action, what he receives is no more than a slap on the wrist for adding pressure onto refs.

So the fact that what SAF said was correct is irrelevant yeah? (They arent GOD but if an independant panel of judges (MOTD) agreed that Rooney was onside, Valencia should have won a penalty and the freekick wasnt one in the first place - surely its only right that SAF highlights mistakes made by officials)

this is after he has deteriorated our centre midfield quite badly, using people like carrick and scholes, when yes 5 years ago maybe scholes was good.. and carrick.. well...he's no keano. hell i dont even know what he is.

i like berbatov but really fergie blew 30 million on a player we didnt really need him that much. i cant help but feel that Torres, or eve Tevez would have been better overall, especially considering age, effort, and sell on ability..

1stly There arent any well known wingers that where available during the summer apart from Ribery who was daylight robbery and is injured now anyway - who hasnt proved himself like Ronaldo yet BM want majority if not more of Ronaldo fee, which is just ridiculous (even if Ribery wanted to come to Utd which is open to question itself)

2ndly Nani isnt Utd quality , I agree but its unfair to berate Valencia I think he has done well and could well be a really good player for Utd and same for Obertan

No club (unless you have a Billionaire owner - not indebt by a billion either lol - or funded by Royalty , can afford to buy every member of the squad/ team at £20m + it just doesnt work (and usually they dont always work as a team either)

Carrick has won 3 EPL titles in a row with us, and most significantly arrived in a summer where he was the only purchase after we lost the league mainly due to our terrible midfield......I think that proves how good he really is. He hasnt hit top form yet this season by being in and out of the team like most other players but he is a very decent player . Also someone who plays 150 games before this season for the club CANT be bad even in these lean times!!!

Tevez was a waste of space (and a real waste of money at the kind of price being asked), his first season was great no question - 2nd season was spent whinging more about when he would get a proper contract rather than actually doing anything remarkable on the field. Berba hasnt worked I totally agree, he should have but it plainly isnt working and we would be lucy to get £20m back for him at this rate, but thats the only optioon I can see, Torres would have been excellent but he blatantly didnt want to come to Utd for whatever reason - and whatever happens at Liverpool there is no chance at all he would ever come now.
 
Last edited:
The only game where we didnt look like winning was the CSKA game - the two EPL games were pretty even and if anything we tested Cech much more than VDS was tested

your saying we looked like we were gonna beat liverpool? didnt thast end something stupid like 3-0?

We have also recently had West Ham, Liverpool, Man City all do the double over us (the last two both last season I think), and thats not including the individual losses here and there

exactly, in years gone by this would NOT have happened...

It also depends who gets bought by which Manager in Jan (I really dont expect SAF to buy significantly unless there are more significant /long term injuries, I suspect Chelsea will buy due to ACoN)

that is also my point, fergie has broken the midfield but doesnt seem able to buy his way out of it:/ help!
 
People ripped into you because you wandered in like Chelsea's biggest fan giving it the big 'un when in reality no one had ever seen you before!

I hope you stay around, be interesting next time Chelsea have a dodgy result if we see you again :)

Big 'un? When did I give it such?

So because I post rarely means I don't have a valid opinion?

Like I have said before apart from my "GETTTT INNNN" post, the rest were my view on the game and I got shouted down for not agreeing with the posts other people made. You can't deny me that.

I suppose I better apologise in advance for forgetting to post in the next Football Thread just in case, whether Chelsea win or lose.

Simple as that I'm afraid, so stop trying to create a false impression of me.
 
Last edited:
Big 'un? When did I give it such?

So because I post rarely means I don't have a valid opinion?

Like I have said before apart from my "GETTTT INNNN" post, the rest were my view on the game and I got shouted down for not agreeing with the posts other people made.

I suppose I better apologise in advance for forgetting to post in the next Football Thread just in case, whether Chelsea win or lose.

Simple as that I'm afraid, so stop trying to create a false impression of me.

Surely you can understand why people are annoyed at you. You never post in SA, and then suddenly Chelsea win a big game, and in you pop giving it the big I am. Coming in every week, even after Chelsea lose and people will respect you.
 
your saying we looked like we were gonna beat liverpool? didnt thast end something stupid like 3-0?
!

2-0 and the more I read about your posts the more I think you should actually WATCH the matches rather than just read about them

I apologise if you do actually, it just sounds like you are talking from other people's impressions - a scoreline rarely tells the whole story
 
Haven't bothered? Can you name a single player other than Messi who is just as good or better?

Thats the thing there isnt anyone really better than Messi at the moment...and good luck in trying to pry him away from Barca...you would have to bankrupt yourselves to bring him to Old Trafford...not saying that Man Utd would do such a thing:p
 
Who can United realistically buy then? Are Valencia still having money problems or could we pry one of Mata / Silva / Villa (unlikely admittedly) ?
 
Yes :p

Clichy has a medal

Senderos was at the club, but didn't play.

EDIT:

How could I forget Jack Wilshere was at the club too (And Jay Simpson)!! :P

I kind of detect you are clutching at straws a little ;)

Who can United realistically buy then? Are Valencia still having money problems or could we pry one of Mata / Silva / Villa (unlikely admittedly) ?

Not sure there is anyone

Possibly those you mentioned - but they are famously quoted as really wanting to stay in Spain (there have been rumblings since the summer, but I dont buy the validity of the rumours ) or at worst going to the Spanish enclave up the road at That Other N.E club lol
 
Last edited:
2-0 and the more I read about your posts the more I think you should actually WATCH the matches rather than just read about them

I apologise if you do actually, it just sounds like you are talking from other people's impressions - a scoreline rarely tells the whole story

no i saw it... and as for being 2 goals down, i still never saw us winning that match...maybe if we'd gone 1-0 then maybe u could say we had a shout at winning at some point but that never happened. We dont seem to make the first breakthrough.. we try to play a bit.. let them score.. get one back... drag it out until the umpteenth minute...

it used to be the odd match as a desperate thing... now its become the norm. this is what i dont like.

against Moscow we were pretty tame until the last 20 mins or so.

thing is we dont necessarily need a Messi... how about someone, anyone better than Nani, and buying Obertan didnt really help.
 
Big 'un? When did I give it such?

So because I post rarely means I don't have a valid opinion?

Like I have said before apart from my "GETTTT INNNN" post, the rest were my view on the game and I got shouted down for not agreeing with the posts other people made. You can't deny me that.

I suppose I better apologise in advance for forgetting to post in the next Football Thread just in case, whether Chelsea win or lose.

Simple as that I'm afraid, so stop trying to create a false impression of me.

You came in shouting about how this was a United forum and we didn't know what we were on about and all sore losers, get a grip son, you sounded like a jumped up little Chelsea fan.

Surely you can understand why people are annoyed at you. You never post in SA, and then suddenly Chelsea win a big game, and in you pop giving it the big I am. Coming in every week, even after Chelsea lose and people will respect you.

I concur.

And he's a Gooner before you jump to any wild MU accusations.
 
Do you even watch matches :confused:

It ended 2-0, and until Torres scored a damn good goal it could have gone either way, the second goal was only scored because we pushed everyone forward.

so at best we were 0-0 and then 0-1 and then 0-2

so at what point were we looking like winning?

i didnt say we deserved nothing from the tie...but when u go behind in each game (liverpool, moscow, chelsea).. i dont think you can claim that we looked like winning...this is an important distinction to make. we were never 1 up, nor 2 up and then had our opponents come back.
 
You came in shouting about how this was a United forum and we didn't know what we were on about and all sore losers, get a grip son, you sounded like a jumped up little Chelsea fan.

Please stop making wild accusations.

I posted my view on the game and was accused of being blind, a troll, a **** and numerous other derogatory terms.

Is this what a new poster should expect for posting an opinion?
 
Back
Top Bottom