Weekend Football Thread. Internationals. *spoilers* 4-6

Yeah, good point. Which is why I think Cole/Defoe should start. There's your big man/small man with good linkup play.

I think that as long as Capello's playing this 4-2-3-1 system Defoe will struggle to get a start unfortunately. He needs to be on the last line of the defence to be successful, and would therefore have to be the "1", but as already pointed out Capello seems to prefer a big guy up there.

As soon as the system changes he should be one of the first on the teamsheet.

And yes, Cole should be the big man over Heskey.
 
Beat The Netherlands at Hampden to (probably) reach the play-offs. What more could you ask for?
Hampden will be bouncing on Wednesday :D
Even if Scotland finish second in the group I don't think they'll get the playoffs, they've dropped to many points and we (and anyother team that might finish 2nd) will be the worst 2nd placed team and will miss out.
 
Every time a player dives and isn't punished with a 2 game ban...

No idea why anyone is saying Rooney dived, it was clearly a foul by him on the other player.

i could cope with it if it actually was every time a player made an eduardo esque dive and wasn't punished. not every single incident we've had it brought up over since it happened though.
 
It was embarrasing how one footed he was and how desperate he was to get it on the right. When he couldn't he fell apart and had nowhere to go.

Glenn Johnson as pap as ever. Lescotts mind on his pay check.

He can certainly hit it with his left so have no idea why he was trying for so long to get an angle with his right. Could have done better with that chance but his performance tonight was good.
 
He went down through no fault of the defenders and appealed to the referee for a foul, how is that not deceiving the referee?

It was a dive though, his intention was, start to finish, to grab the players shirt to make it appear like his arm was being held by the player rather than him holding the defenders shirt, then go down under this premise with the intention of getting a penalty, thats what he did. It was a dive, and then for good measure he kicked out at the defender.

What I would have liked to see was rather than a couple frequent cheats like Terry and Rooney coming out and claiming no England players cheat or dive, only to unsurprisingly see both commit fouls and Rooney to dive right after saying he's never intended to in his life, I'd like to see the MANAGER come out and say England WON'T cheat and any players that do won't be starting the next game.

The thing of it is, if you do compare it to Eduardo's dive, he was going for the ball, had the ball and then went down last second when the ball was going out. Rooney before the ball got to him had already decided to pretend he was being fouled by the defender, he'd already decided he was going down and not even going to try for the ball before the ball arrived. It was premeditated, his intention start to finish was to cheat without even trying to get the ball. Same can't be said of Eduardo's dive, which makes Rooney's far more cynical IMHO.

But a game against a fairly poor side where a ridiculous decision pretty much silenced the opposition, don't look remotely close to good enough to win the world cup, no changes, no improvements, no dropping of cheats or, simply poor players, no starting players in form, no giving unestablished players real time on the pitch with the rest of the first team to see what they can do, utter waste of time.
 
He went down through no fault of the defenders and appealed to the referee for a foul, how is that not deceiving the referee?

He went down because he tried to kick/slide the defender. He wasn't looking for a penalty, it was just poor refereeing.

i could cope with it if it actually was every time a player made an eduardo esque dive and wasn't punished. not every single incident we've had it brought up over since it happened though.

A dive's a dive, we have seen players dive in the same way for years as Eduardo and not seen any punishment. So why now? UEFA have already said they won't punish anyone else for diving. In terms of this incident I've no idea why anyone is bring it up, it wasn't a penalty, it wasn't a dive, it was a free kick against England and poor refereeing.
 
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