Weekend Football Thread. spoilers 18-22

el_dazza · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:06

Rotty said:
was nearer 7

But did they PLAY all of those 7 minutes? 1 1/2 of those minutes were Owen's goal celebration. Remember, it's a minimum of 4 added minutes. I'm not the biggest United fan, but that's the rule.

msmalls74 · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:12

Found on another forum

Craig Bellamy scored City's third goal on 89:55, game does not restart until 91:01. One minute and six seconds of Man city celerbrating and is added onto the original four minutes of added time, taking it to around 95:06.
Anderson was subbed and Carrick was brought on and as all substitutions add 30 seconds onto added time, taking it to 95: 36
Owen scored the on 95:28, this meant the game was still 8 seconds within added time.

Makes sense to me

el_dazza · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:14

Nice one, you've just killed the thread! What are the scousers, gooners and cheatski's going to complain about now

Shamikebab · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:14

el_dazza said:
But did they PLAY all of those 7 minutes? 1 1/2 of those minutes were Owen's goal celebration. Remember, it's a minimum of 4 added minutes. I'm not the biggest United fan, but that's the rule.

Exactly, we scored on 5:28 so all these people saying 7,8 minutes of added on time just look silly.

elmuzzy66. · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:18

rdizzle said:
They scored from it not being given so what difference does it make? I'm still waiting for all these other incidents you speak of. So far you can only come up with the one I mentioned.

Looks like the mods are working over time.

The gunners game and 2day make it 2 out of 2. That imo is the lions share

rdizzle · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:28

elmuzzy66. said:
Looks like the mods are working over time.

The gunners game and 2day make it 2 out of 2. That imo is the lions share

2 out of 2? I thought you said "6 games in...."

As has already been established the added on time seemed correct and even if the Arsenal pen wasn't given, they scored from it not being given. That is one decision to go Utd's way this season. I should hope the team you follow have had zero or it would make you seem silly. I very much doubt it. I am assuming you support Man City or Liverpool and both of those teams have had decisions go there way this season already.

Stoke up next week, come back and try again then. I'm sure you will have seen something that meant Utd got something out of a game they didn't deserve. Even if they do win 10-0. :rolleyes:

elmuzzy66. · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:34

rdizzle said:
2 out of 2? I thought you said "6 games in...."

As has already been established the added on time seemed correct and even if the Arsenal pen wasn't given, they scored from it not being given. That is one decision to go Utd's way this season. I should hope the team you follow have had zero or it would make you seem silly. I very much doubt it. I am assuming you support Man City or Liverpool and both of those teams have had decisions go there way this season already.

Stoke up next week, come back and try again then. I'm sure you will have seen something that meant Utd got something out of a game they didn't deserve. Even if they do win 10-0.

yes there have been 6 games so far in the season

I support any any team that play agaisnt Real Madrid, Spain and MAn Utd, oh and i have a soft spot forLiverpool

I soppose iam gulity off having the rose tined specs when watching man utd play but do feel they get 50/50 calls going there way.

ron3003 · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:40

Wonder what the FA will make of this? City player injured when pelted with coins at half time then a United fan gets on the pitch after Bellamy scores. Games behind closed doors perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8265810.stm

nft_99 · 20 Sep 2009 at 20:54

player was hit by a coin and not injured?

Bellamy slapped the fan in the face as he was being held by stewards ( who caught the idiot very quickly)

4p · 20 Sep 2009 at 21:00

UNITED FAN

Great game for both sides imo, Given is a world class keeper he has so much over Foster tbh.

The close to 97 minutes watch was a bit dodgy but hey, thats football :/

My mate lost out on £70, he had 3-3 down and Owen ruined that

The best derby in a long time

crunchee · 20 Sep 2009 at 21:01

I see Mancity players are making a name for themselves amongst opposition supporters

CliffyBiro · 20 Sep 2009 at 21:03

crunchee said:
I see Mancity players are making a name for themselves amongst opposition supporters

And the fans making a name for themselves too.

Mark1989 · 20 Sep 2009 at 21:06

The only reason they could complain in my view is that if he added time for City celebration what about rooneys? or any ones celebration for that matter? I cant see that being the official rule or most games would always need atleast an extra 2mins.

Thou regardless of that and i hate to say it as a liverpool supported UTD deserved to win today City were shockin in the second half thou both defences were crap aswell but was a good game to watch

JonB · 20 Sep 2009 at 21:44

Football365 have it spot on (same thing that has already been pointed out above)...

Beginning with the most timely issue of all...

* Last week's Winners&Losers column remarked that 'it appears as if the league's whistle-blowers are under instruction this season to play a greater amount of injury time at the end of each half'. Yet it was the time that referee Martin Atkinson added on to added-on time that City will rage against: having signalled a modest four minutes of injury time, United's winner was scored in the 96th.

Dubious? Fertile ground for a paranoid frenzy? Not really.

City scored in the very final seconds of the ninety. The game did not restart until over 91 minutes had elapsed. Every substitution should result in another thirty seconds being played and United replaced Anderson with Michael Carrick in the 93rd. The four minutes of injury time signalled is a minimum period, not a maximum.

So even if Michael Owen scored after an outrageous-sounding 95 minutes and 28 seconds, it was legitimate for the the game still to have been in play at that time.

red11 · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:18

Watching MOTD2 has reminded me of a point I wanted to make earlier, and that is Park is a waste of space. A complete non existent performance today, Valencia or Nani should have started ahead of him. And as long as Fletcher is putting in these performances he should keep his first team place ahead of Carrick. Giggs has been sublime this season, he's rolling back the years even more than he has done before.

Visionary · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:22

Valencia looked good when he came on. He seemed to be one of the reasons Man U started to dominate, along with Giggs turning on the style.

Anksy · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:25

Now stop moaning about the time.

1 second out, Plus they mist the bit where man city kicked the ball away on the freekick, so lets keep hearing the moaning about the time pleeease

BaZ87 · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:26

MOT2 have just shown that Utd got lucky with the added time. The whistle should have blown (even if you add on the entire time taken for City's celebration) 1 second before Owen scored

Anksy · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:27

BaZ87 said:
MOT2 have just shown that Utd got lucky with the added time. The whistle should have blown (even if you add on the entire time taken for City's celebration) 1 second before Owen scored

yep but like i said they mist the bit where city kicked the ball away when we won a freekick, that can count as 1 second

Tute · 20 Sep 2009 at 22:27

Anyone see that with Bellamy and the pitch invader?

That was stupid, I can see the FA taking action.

Weekend Football Thread. *spoilers* 18-22

Weekend Football Thread. spoilers 18-22