Soldato
If that's the case you haven't quite got the exercise and diet just right. Less calories in and more out equals weight loss, unless you're Eric Cartman
MW
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If that's the case you haven't quite got the exercise and diet just right. Less calories in and more out equals weight loss, unless you're Eric Cartman
MW
If that's the case you haven't quite got the exercise and diet just right. Less calories in and more out equals weight loss, unless you're Eric Cartman
MW
Over a 6 month period i tried various durations/intensities and forms of exercise such as cycling, rowing, badminton along with a calorie total ranging from 1500 to 3500, all healthy stuff - no junk etc. Didnt shift a single pound.
It has never been that simple for me
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You should eat breakfast even if its just a banana or two peices of brown toast, thats what I have
To be honest I wouldnt bother changing your diet, I didnt and mine is worse than yours. I just sit on the bikes in the gym and go swimming, motivation is a nightmare sometimes but it works for me so I force myself
I went from 14.5 to just over 12.5 stone in 6 months, i'm 5"11
I'm changing my sessions around a bit as I am starting on the weights but my excersize was purely cardio at first and went like this
Monday, swimming for half an hour no breaks
Wednesday gym, half an hour on bikes 10 mins on rowers
Friday, swimming for half an hour no breaks
Saturday, gym, half an hour on bikes 10 mins on rowers and then a swim if I had time
To be honest I wouldnt bother changing your diet, I didnt and mine is worse than yours. I just sit on the bikes in the gym and go swimming, motivation is a nightmare sometimes but it works for me so I force myself
I went from 14.5 to just over 12.5 stone in 6 months, i'm 5"11
I'm changing my sessions around a bit as I am starting on the weights but my excersize was purely cardio at first and went like this
Monday, swimming for half an hour no breaks
Wednesday gym, half an hour on bikes 10 mins on rowers
Friday, swimming for half an hour no breaks
Saturday, gym, half an hour on bikes 10 mins on rowers and then a swim if I had time
Haven't read the whole thread but here's my advice:
Ignore FAD diets & Diet Pills, Its a life style change not something your do for 6-7 months reach a point and go back to eating crap.
First thing to do is log everything you eat and i mean everything, work out the calories you are consuming on a daily basis. Next is to work out your BMR (Google for BMR Calculator)
Now, take your BMR and subtract 3-400 Calories - this will be your daily calorie target. Being the weight you are that calorie deficiency you will see the pounds fall off.
Next is the incorporating more exercise into your daily routine as you clearly don't move enough currently! Hit the gym and get a decent routine sorted - any gym worth it's membership fee should have decent PT's that can offer some routine advice.
Ignore FAD diets & Diet Pills, Its a life style change not something your do for 6-7 months reach a point and go back to eating crap.
First thing to do is log everything you eat and i mean everything, work out the calories you are consuming on a daily basis. Next is to work out your BMR (Google for BMR Calculator)
Now, take your BMR and subtract 3-400 Calories - this will be your daily calorie target. Being the weight you are that calorie deficiency you will see the pounds fall off.
Next is the incorporating more exercise into your daily routine as you clearly don't move enough currently! Hit the gym and get a decent routine sorted - any gym worth it's membership fee should have decent PT's that can offer some routine advice.
Soldato
In a thread like this I would usually have a lot to say but I'm not. I lost 4 stones of fat. From 15st to just under 11st. 20KG squat to 190KG.
I suggest if you're genuinely serious about this: http://stronglifts.com is all you need.
Just read the PDF and some of the articles. I guarantee if you implement what Mehdi says, this time next year you could be at least 7 stones lighter and hell of a lot stronger.
I suggest if you're genuinely serious about this: http://stronglifts.com is all you need.
Just read the PDF and some of the articles. I guarantee if you implement what Mehdi says, this time next year you could be at least 7 stones lighter and hell of a lot stronger.
well....i kept a check on what I ate this weekend....which tbh ended up being a bit up in the air so my food was a bit all over the place.
Saturday - no breakfast, no lunch, a microwave macaroni cheese around 6pm and a pot noodle at about 1am! I drank a whole 2 litre bottle of normal coke.
Sunday - no breakfast. scrambled egg (3 eggs, milk, butter) on 3 slices of buttered toast for lunch. Dinner was oven chips, battred onion rings and a sausage and baked-bean bake thingy. For drink I had a can of coke and a around half a litre of pure orange juice. For a snack I had a timeout bar.
tbh the thing that shocks me the most is the lack of liquid!
Saturday - no breakfast, no lunch, a microwave macaroni cheese around 6pm and a pot noodle at about 1am! I drank a whole 2 litre bottle of normal coke.
Sunday - no breakfast. scrambled egg (3 eggs, milk, butter) on 3 slices of buttered toast for lunch. Dinner was oven chips, battred onion rings and a sausage and baked-bean bake thingy. For drink I had a can of coke and a around half a litre of pure orange juice. For a snack I had a timeout bar.
tbh the thing that shocks me the most is the lack of liquid!
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You wasted around 900 calories on sugar via drinking coke, why? Macaroni cheese for lunch, that had to be a fair few hundred calories, with quite high saturated fat and a pot noodle is full of nonsense with around 300 calories. Why waste calories on such poor quality food?
tesco's sparkling water 2 Liters 17p.... i love fizzy water... 2 bottles a day...
x2, without sounding a ****, you eat **** you will look ****.
Your trying to lose weight, it will come off 10x faster if you get the finger out and drop the rubbish. Stick to good sources of carb such as brown rice, wholemeal bread, oats anything wholegrain!. Stick to lean protein source such as quality chicken breasts, fish & lean quality steak cuts. Fats have them from cashews or evoo.
Put it this way I can drop fat/water with complete EASE simply thru diet. And I do zero cardio, just to put things into perspective. Your diet is everything.
Are you a WWE wrestler or pro Rugby player? Exactly. By the sounds of it you lead a sedatory lifestyle and from your weekend food diary you eat and drink crap.
This might sound harsh, but you need to be honest with yourself. The sensible diet (apart from skipping breakfast) you posted earlier isn't true. If it where you would be losing weight quickly. I suspect the weekend diet is more realistic, even then I bet you've omitted some snacks. You aren't cheating anyone but yourself. If you want the kid on the bus to stop pointing you need to get a grip, eat properly, starting with breakfast (what's the excuse for skipping on a Saturday or Sunday?). Cut out the coke and basically think about what you putting in your mouth. If it has no nutritional benefit don't eat it.
I've been fat in the past. Going up to 16.5 stones using kids and work as an excuse. I decided to do something about it and got down to 12 stones by eating a lot less and exercising a lot more. I aim for 1800 cals a day as I have a desk job. More if I'm going out for a long bike ride, less if I want to lose weight.
The fact is we are just strangers on the Internet. You can tell us any excuses you want but at the end of the day it's your reflection you'll see in the mirror.
First of all, for all of those who say "It's not as easy as it sounds, hormones affect me this way, genes are geared towards me being fat blah blah" you are quite frankly talking tosh, if you eat 2000 calories a day, drink enough water and burn 2500 calories a day you will lose weight. If you do not lose weight by doing this then you are a very special and unique individual who can actually survive without the need for sustenance as your body is somehow producing its own calories from thin air.
For the OP, please try and remove yourself from the rut you have fallen into, In January of this year I was 18.3 Stone (257lb) and fed up, I ate a bacon sandwich with brown sauce and white bread at 10am for breakfast a cheese and ham sandwich from Tesco at 12 for lunch with full fat coke, a bar of chocolate at 3 for a snack, and a large dominos pizza to myself for tea virtually every night. I also drank alcohol (Normally a bottle of wine) 2-3 nights a week. I then got married and hated my wedding photo's, I wanted to change.
I signed up for the London to Brighton bike ride in February and had a target to aim for, 220lb by June 13th, 1 week before the ride. That was a loss of 2.6 stone. I had 4 months to do it. I researched food and diet information on http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ and built up a high protein low carb diet that helped me attain my target. I can give you a copy of this diet if you wish but it does involve a lot of psychological preparation and mental focus to stick to. Half of the battle with weight loss is not food and exorcise, its overcoming temptation and finding the strength to carry on mentally. I guarantee that once you reach week 2, and lose 8lb you won't look back.
If you want just email me on smitho3 'at' gmail.com and I will provide you with the tools that I used. By the way I have since reached 200lb (14.3 Stone) and completed the London to Brighton bike ride back in June 15 minutes faster than I set out to. With the right mind set you can do anything!
For the OP, please try and remove yourself from the rut you have fallen into, In January of this year I was 18.3 Stone (257lb) and fed up, I ate a bacon sandwich with brown sauce and white bread at 10am for breakfast a cheese and ham sandwich from Tesco at 12 for lunch with full fat coke, a bar of chocolate at 3 for a snack, and a large dominos pizza to myself for tea virtually every night. I also drank alcohol (Normally a bottle of wine) 2-3 nights a week. I then got married and hated my wedding photo's, I wanted to change.
I signed up for the London to Brighton bike ride in February and had a target to aim for, 220lb by June 13th, 1 week before the ride. That was a loss of 2.6 stone. I had 4 months to do it. I researched food and diet information on http://forum.bodybuilding.com/ and built up a high protein low carb diet that helped me attain my target. I can give you a copy of this diet if you wish but it does involve a lot of psychological preparation and mental focus to stick to. Half of the battle with weight loss is not food and exorcise, its overcoming temptation and finding the strength to carry on mentally. I guarantee that once you reach week 2, and lose 8lb you won't look back.
If you want just email me on smitho3 'at' gmail.com and I will provide you with the tools that I used. By the way I have since reached 200lb (14.3 Stone) and completed the London to Brighton bike ride back in June 15 minutes faster than I set out to. With the right mind set you can do anything!
As I stated, the weekend ended up in the air so I was just grabbing food here and there while I was out and about.
I'm also not here crying about being pointed at by a child, I felt it was the start of me realising where I'd got to and I came here looking for advice and support - not someone telling me I'm lying. My diet list was an average day, so yes its going to be easily countered by a day where I find myself eating a mars bar at lunch while drinking a 500ml bottle of coke and then pigging out on a dominoes in the evening.
Also yes, I realise that the theory is - shovel less food in mouth, burn more calories = lose weight. But I would rather sort out a lifestyle change.
Thankfully, some people have made helpful, useful, positive comments on here which I am going through.
I'm also not here crying about being pointed at by a child, I felt it was the start of me realising where I'd got to and I came here looking for advice and support - not someone telling me I'm lying. My diet list was an average day, so yes its going to be easily countered by a day where I find myself eating a mars bar at lunch while drinking a 500ml bottle of coke and then pigging out on a dominoes in the evening.
Also yes, I realise that the theory is - shovel less food in mouth, burn more calories = lose weight. But I would rather sort out a lifestyle change.
Thankfully, some people have made helpful, useful, positive comments on here which I am going through.
Sorry if I sounded harsh but sometimes you need tough love.
If you want to sort out a lifestyle change then do it. That doesn't involve eating crap because a weekend is 'up in the air'. There are always healthy alternatives. Are you saying that where you bought the coke from they didn't sell bottled water?
Seriously, you can make all the excuses you want to - and believe me I was brilliant at making them up! - but until you take responsibility and make conscious, sometimes hard choices about what you eat you simply won't lose weight.
Start a healthy lifestyle change TODAY. Don't put it off until there are enough useful posts on this thread for you to put a 'plan' together - its not that complicated.....this is all you need:
Next time you go shopping, whether its a newsagent, or supermarket, do not buy crap. If its not in your house you cant eat it. This includes any fizzy drinks. Get used to drinking water.
Start cooking for yourself using proper fresh ingredients. Lean meat and plenty of veg. If you make salad do not put heaps of mayo or pre-made dressing on it. A drizzle of good quality olive oil with a tiny bit of balsamic tastes better than most dressing anyway. Watch your portions - at 25 st they are probably far too big out of habit. Start off with half of what you would normally plate up.
Get used to feeling a bit hungry - its a different sensation to a craving.
This reduces the calories in.
Do something every day to exercise. At 25 st I guess a walk is going to be tiring, but just get into the habit of doing some exercise for the sake of it each day. Might be a 20 minute walk after work, or buy an exercise bike, put your MP3 player on and just pedal for a bit. Build up as you feel fitter, which will happen quite quickly initially. The hardest bit of exercise is getting out of the door and actually starting it.
This increases the calories out.
So, come back on here tomorrow and tell us what you ate and what exercise you did today.
Good luck with it - for what its worth if you stick at it it will change your life.
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sorry for double post but also, I had to go for a height/weight/blood pressure test this morning at my doctors...
My blood pressure was 128/60, which apparently is really good...I also seemed to have lost a little bit of weight in the last month or so. Cuz I was coming up at 155kgs, which is like 24.5 stone...so I have lost half a stone or so in the last month!
My blood pressure was 128/60, which apparently is really good...I also seemed to have lost a little bit of weight in the last month or so. Cuz I was coming up at 155kgs, which is like 24.5 stone...so I have lost half a stone or so in the last month!
hmm, not a double post...well this is a double post!
sorry if I jumped on you a bit but you wouldnt believe how many times I get told...to "suck it up" or whatever and just lose the weight. To stop crying cuz its so hard and do something.
Also, it might have/might not have helped that I read a book called Waist Desposal by Dr John Briffa. He has some interesting ideas...like cutting out fat from a diet isnt neccearily a good idea because not all fats are bad fats and also because fat is good at keeping you feeling fuller longer. Also he looks at what goes into making foods and many of the "healtheir" options are not actually that good for you...for example, butter is better than marge but whereas marge is a tub of chemicals, butter is at least (mostly) natural.
Anyway, I shall indeed do another list today of my food/liquid intake and see what you all think. At some point I'm going to get the missues to measure me all up so I can post that and see how my measurements change as I'm going...
sorry if I jumped on you a bit but you wouldnt believe how many times I get told...to "suck it up" or whatever and just lose the weight. To stop crying cuz its so hard and do something.
Also, it might have/might not have helped that I read a book called Waist Desposal by Dr John Briffa. He has some interesting ideas...like cutting out fat from a diet isnt neccearily a good idea because not all fats are bad fats and also because fat is good at keeping you feeling fuller longer. Also he looks at what goes into making foods and many of the "healtheir" options are not actually that good for you...for example, butter is better than marge but whereas marge is a tub of chemicals, butter is at least (mostly) natural.
Anyway, I shall indeed do another list today of my food/liquid intake and see what you all think. At some point I'm going to get the missues to measure me all up so I can post that and see how my measurements change as I'm going...
bmi only works for very average people with average builds,
at 6"2 and heavily built the lighest I have ever been was still classed as overweight despite the fact I was very (almost ill looking) thin (went a bit mental in my 20's and lived off 1 sandwich a day for 8 months)...
bmi is a waste of time (unless you are very average build / height) you know if you are fat or not you dont need a chart...
also the running joke in my company for ages was that teh obviously FAT accountant was OK (on the bmi) and his very slim / short assistant was fat acording to it
Soldato
It works for people that lead a sedentary lifestyle like the op, hence why I suggested to look it up.
I'm well aware of the BMI being crap for anyone that lifts or is involved in some sport/activity.
Living off a sandwich a day for 8 months ?? Of course you'd look bloody unhealthy !!
just a query...thinking about healthier options for my lunch at work....
I'm always hearing that pasta-salads and vegetable cous-cous/rice...made the night before and taken into work to heat up/eat cold are good.
But isn't pasta, cous-cous and rice both sources of carbs?
I'm always hearing that pasta-salads and vegetable cous-cous/rice...made the night before and taken into work to heat up/eat cold are good.
But isn't pasta, cous-cous and rice both sources of carbs?